Hi Andrew P.<br><br>1. Thanks.<br>2. There is no 'Pres' of the ACC. I will not be nominating myself.<br>3. Representative positions on the ACC will only become available if the numbers of 'Local loco' warrant it.<br>
'State and Territory councils' do not exist unless there are sufficient 'Local loco' to fill them.<br> The 'beauty' of the model is that in allows for growth.<br>4. & 5. Yes lets have a 'popularity' contest and trial it. <br>
<br>Thanks for your comments, thanks for your vote.<br><br>Andrew G.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Andrew Powter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrew.powter@gmail.com">andrew.powter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">1. As an observer to this saga, I would back the sentiments viz. AndrewG's write up = quality. <div>
2. I do wonder though if AndrewG is going to nom himself for Pres. of the ACC?</div><div>3. I wonder also if au has enough *nix users and a big enough subset of them running *buntu to staff an ACC, State and territory CC's and LoCo's?<br>
4. On paper, this looks very nice, and in principle I agree that a new model needs to be rolled out for ubuntu-au, but practically I have reservations about its implementation.</div><div>5. Having said that, I think we should have a popularity con...- er, referendum with other proposed ideas for the restructuring of ubuntu-au and THEN have the winner go for the trial period. Second place can collect $50.</div>
<div><br></div><div>$0.02,</div><div>Andrew Powter</div><div>aka "nDR01d"</div><div><br></div><div><div><div></div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 April 2010 12:43, AndrewG <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gandella@gmail.com" target="_blank">gandella@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP<br>
<br>
Prologue: 25th March, Melissa Draper (our team contact) was sent an<br>
email outlining some of the following in detail. I am still awaiting<br>
a reply (maybe she is on holidays), thus my reason for a public post<br>
to the Ubuntu-au community. (I wish that she had replied so we could<br>
have made a joint post)<br>
<br>
<br>
LEADERSHIP: From the correspondence that I have had with Melissa, she<br>
informs me that<br>
"The contact is not the dog's body nor is it the mastermind."<br>
Further, "I'm responsible for allocating privileges as allowed to us<br>
by Canonical. I'm the team /contact/. I'm the person who interfaces<br>
between Canonical and the team members."<br>
<br>
So my conclusion is that the 'Team Contact' is NOT the team leader<br>
(contrary to popular belief), but a 'Conduit' between Canonical, the<br>
Community Council and the Ubuntu-au community. (and also that the Team<br>
leader should convey the sentiment of the ubuntu-au community)<br>
<br>
Thus, Ubuntu-au is a collection of people with no leadership, a group<br>
of individuals trying to further the goals set down in the wiki page<br>
'The Australian team focuses on distributing, advertising and<br>
demonstrating Ubuntu within Australia'<br>
<br>
<br>
I also asked Melissa the following<br>
"What is your vision ?"<br>
Her reply<br>
"My vision is for a team that is constructive and contains people who<br>
think up initiatives or support others rather than waiting for<br>
orders."<br>
My reply<br>
"How do we encourage & support constructive people?<br>
Some people need to be given guidance, in my experience there are<br>
three types of people.<br>
1. Leaders: Those that inspire others to do great things<br>
2. Followers: Those that need inspiration to do great things.<br>
3. Others: They just don't give a damn about doing great things."<br>
<br>
<br>
On March 8,9 & 11, there was some very robust threads on this mailing<br>
list about Ubuntu-au Governance, Re-approval and the Website.<br>
Now I'm not sure that these discussions achieved much as it has been<br>
over one month and it seams that these issues remain unresolved.<br>
<br>
I think I can see why this is the case.<br>
<br>
1. There seams to be a reluctance to change the status-quo.<br>
2. There is a fear about 'loss of control'.<br>
3. There is no clear process to bring about change to the Ubuntu-au<br>
community.<br>
4. There is no 'leadership' to enable change to be achieved.<br>
<br>
In summary: 'Nobody is responsible for everything' or 'Everybody is<br>
responsible for Everything' or 'Nobody is responsible for Nothing'<br>
<br>
"Change is the law of life and those who look only to the past or<br>
present are certain to miss the future."<br>
—John F. Kennedy<br>
<br>
<br>
BIG PICTURE:<br>
Currently there is a discussion with the Community Council<br>
<a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986</a><br>
It talks about 'LoCo's are not "Lo" Enough' (Mark Shuttleworth has<br>
even made comment)<br>
and the concept of:<br>
ReCo = Regional Community (for States and Provinces)<br>
CoCo = Country Community (for Countries)<br>
LoCo = Local Community (for Towns and Cities)<br>
<br>
The Ubuntu-au community is clearly a 'CoCo' not a 'LoCo' as we are<br>
seperated by large distances, in cities and regions.<br>
<br>
If we accept the premise that the ubuntu-au community is made up of<br>
smaller 'LoCo' around the country.<br>
I.E. Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart<br>
<br>
***********************************************************************************************************<br>
PROPOSAL: I would propose that an "Australian Community Council"(ACC)<br>
be created. (A Trial for 18 months)<br>
Its members would be 1. Team-Contact 2. Web-master 3. 'LoCo'<br>
representative(s) (7+-2 people total)<br>
***********************************************************************************************************<br>
(See <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure</a> for a summary<br>
of models)<br>
(See <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure-detailed" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure-detailed</a> for<br>
a detailed model of the ACC)<br>
(These models have been created in collaboration, and are open to<br>
further modification)<br>
<br>
The role of the ACC, is really one of "Advisory, Support &<br>
Consultation", as the "Team contact" will still retain the role &<br>
privileges.<br>
<br>
ADVANTAGES<br>
1. It gives the community some ownership in the process of running<br>
the Ubuntu-au.<br>
2. It will bring forward 'leaders', which could be potential<br>
successors for the 'Team contact'<br>
3. Spreading the load of leadership. (with 9 potential persons)<br>
4. An open transparent process.<br>
5. Authority to drive discussion and implementation.<br>
6. The decision making process, on a national level is simplified, it<br>
is easier to make decisions with 9 (potentially) than it is with 40 in<br>
an IRC meeting.<br>
7. An identifiable 'Contact' person for each City/Region.<br>
There are many Teams in the wider Ubuntu community, that utilise a<br>
council to share the leadership role eg. Georgia & Ohio<br>
<br>
DISADVANTAGES<br>
1. Elections.<br>
2. Structured.<br>
3. A Committee.<br>
(These are not really disadvantages, but necessary evils to achieve<br>
the outcomes of the ADVANTAGES)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
ROADMAP: Where do we go from here?<br>
****************************************************************************************************************<br>
I guess that I am asking YOU the community to see if YOU are in favour<br>
of an 'Australian Community Council'?<br>
****************************************************************************************************************<br>
If this thread gets a favourable response, then the next thing to do<br>
would be to call a poll and have the 'PROPOSAL' passed.<br>
Then we could call for each City/Region to elect a representative to<br>
the ACC.<br>
<br>
One response to this post could be: 'This is all great in theory, but<br>
we don't have enough people to create an ACC.'<br>
My response would be: 'Let's ask for interested persons to come<br>
forward and nominate' (I know of three people that would be<br>
interested)<br>
<br>
Finally, unless we have a 'Structure & Process' in place to create a<br>
leadership team nobody will come forward.<br>
The status-quo cannot continue and to move forward a leadership team<br>
is required to motivate the community to do great things.<br>
<br>
RE-APPROVAL:<br>
As our re-approval approaches, obviously my 'PROPOSAL' for the<br>
creation of the ACC cannot be implemented. (if the community agrees)<br>
We can say to the Ubuntu Community Council, "We are in the process of<br>
creating an Australian Community Council, from our Regions/Cities" our<br>
chances of re-approval will be greatly improved.<br>
<br>
<br>
***********************************************************<br>
Are YOU in favour of an 'Australian Community Council'?<br>
***********************************************************<br>
Those of you who want change, now is the time to speak-up.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Andrew G.<br>
<br>
<br>
PS. Please read the detailed model at the wiki before replying to this<br>
post.<br>
Ref: <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader" target="_blank">wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamLeader</a> and <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto" target="_blank">wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto</a><br>
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