Well, I'm an idiot! I was messing around with an old box after it was screwing with my home network, I decided it would be a good idea to swap parts in and out and when I decided to reboot it, there was no beep and no display - though everything seemed to be powered. So I decided all on my own that it was pop-luck it ever ran after I swapped out the CPU (which was a 1.6) with a 3.2GHZ - the fact that it ran for a few weeks was probably luck. Because when theres no beep its normally the PSU, right! So I popped in a 90$ Antec PSU and poof, thick white smoke for all to enjoy - perhaps it was the fact that it was a 580, as oppose to the 450 that was in there - though I  could see nothing wrong with the swap-out, maybe it to was ready to go. So now I'm left with around 8 sticks of old DDR 512 ram, 2 groovy corsair sticks with funky "high heat resistant" cases (though these are only 256 mb sticks) a crazy looking motherboard ( an Abit IC7-MAX3) and a couple of hardrives - however, I dont have an AGP card to get this old Motherboard working. So, I propose a trade, I'll swap anyone for their old shitty AGP video cards in return for my old shitty DDR RAM. I think its a fair bargain, since the ram would be worth more regardless, I now have no computer to set up CentOS on to study for my RHCE and I'm really in the mood to study. I live in the Botany area so if you want we can exchange numbers and arrange to post the parts to each other or something (or meet, whatever) Oh, did I mention I also have a 1.6GHZ chip laying around with that ram, its a p4 (forget what socket, same socket as motherboard posted above). so If that AGP card you have is fiarly decent I'll chuck that CPU in with it. If I seem desperate its because I'm a student, leave me alone :P Regards, Tony. -- When one burns ones bridges, what a very nice fire it makes.