<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2838" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=#ffffff> <DIV>Hi Cameron Thanks for the reply. Sorry to take so long to get back. The problem I'm having is that Synaptic is installing some programs but not others & it doesn't give any indication they aren't installed. I had a lot of trouble installing WINE. I eventually found in <A href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wine</A> where it says that the version of wine that ships with Ubuntu is out of date & to download another version from deb <A href="http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt">http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt</A> binary/ So I followed the instructions & added the repository to Synaptic only to get a message saying line 36 of /etc/apt/sources.list has the wrong syntax. I kept trying. I checked <A href="http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb">http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb</A> & following directions there decided to edit sources.list only to find I couldn't edit sources.list because it's read only. I can't remember whether I worked out how to change permissions for it or not but I tried & I never did get WINE installed by that method. Eventually I had to download it manually & install with apt-get. Very messy considering that there was a version of WINE on the cd I installed from. While I was doing this I happened upon <A href="http://klik.atekon.de/">http://klik.atekon.de/</A> I scanned down the available list & saw Samsung Yepp mp3 loader. Great! I can use that, thought I. So I followed the instructions for installing Klik then tried to download Yepp & what happens? I got a message saying klik is not a registered protocol! I eventually found something about compatibility issues with Klik & Ubuntu in the wiki or somewhere. It's a pity that the documentation for gdesklets didn't mention adding it to Sessions. I didn't expect to find a Phone Manager on the system & wasn't really that surprised when it didn't work with my phone. I've tried installing a couple of games under WINE including Morrowind which is listed as compatible with WINE. It appeared to have installed ok but doesn't run. I guess there are dll's missing or something. Thanks for your reply Regards Bob Gould</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From: <A title=jprogrammer@gmail.com href="mailto:jprogrammer@gmail.com">Cameron Crothers</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">To: <A title=gouldbob@optusnet.com.au href="mailto:gouldbob@optusnet.com.au">Bob Gould</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Cc: <A title=ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com href="mailto:ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:12 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Re: Ubuntu</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Bob, Well you are right to synaptic and apt-get all just download to cache and then install them, you can clear the cache with the apt-cache command, you have to store the files somewhere and not keep them around indefinably since you could run out of room. gdesklets are just another application so like you might like gaim to start with every session you have to start gdesklets with every session you can add it to your session options if you look in System->Preferences->Sessions and add the gdesklets command. As for the Motorola problem I can't help there except to say that you could be in for a treat Motorola is notorious for being too propitiatory so you may never be able to talk to it from Linux without using VMWare and running windows etc. Cameron <DIV>On 3/28/06, Bob Gould <<A href="mailto:gouldbob@optusnet.com.au">gouldbob@optusnet.com.au</A>> wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">I have just spent 2 days trying to get Ubuntu set up. I am an educated layman with about 8 years experience in using MS Windows. I have tried many Linux distros before including several versions of Red Hat, Fedora Core 4, Kanotix & several others. I have not yet found one that I am happy with or that I have sufficient knowledge to be able to configure properly. I have tried installing Wine, samba & other apts with Synaptic PM. It appears to have installed the programs but they are only downloaded to the cache. Synaptic installed gdesklets but when I log out the applets are not saved to the desktop & have to be re-launched each session. I can't get the Gnome Phone Manager to connect to my Motorola mobile & can't find any documentation to help. Now I've spent so long on it I've got a stiff neck & I'm pissed off with another Linux distro. It did find my cable modem & email was easy to setup. Regards Bob Gould Ipswich, QLD -- ubuntu-au mailing list <A href="mailto:ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com </A> <A href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au</A> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV> -- JBlog: <A href="http://jprogrammer.profusehost.net/">http://jprogrammer.profusehost.net/</A> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See <A href="http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html">http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html </A></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>