Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

AndrewG gandella at gmail.com
Mon Mar 8 03:10:42 GMT 2010


Andrew Swinn,

   Now we are getting somewhere.

   Lets have the 'Call to arms'.

   Lets get a definite date & time for the IRC meeting that Melissa
has proposed.

   Let's set an agenda.

   Let's get an article on the ubuntu.org.au Website & wiki, to
generate some publicity.


Andrew G.


On Mar 8, 12:58 pm, Andrew Swinn <and... at swinn.id.au> wrote:
> On 8/03/2010 1:25 PM, AndrewG wrote:
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> > On Mar 8, 12:05 pm, Paul Gear<p... at libertysys.com.au>  wrote:
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> >> Melissa Draper wrote:
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> >>> On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 11:25 +1100, Andrew Swinn wrote:
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> >>>> Just a quick 2 cents worth on the whole committee thing.
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> >>>> I would agree that having an overall president plus a representive from
> >>>> each state would be the way to go.
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> >>> Linux Australia has gone through this discussion regularly over the
> >>> years. The conclusion has always been that it's not feasible. Why?
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> >>> Because you have to find, for each state (and territory), someone
> >>> actually capable and willing to do the role. In a country like
> >>> Australia, that means finding someone from NSW, Vic, QLD, WA, SA, Tas,
> >>> ACT.
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> >>> ...
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> >>>> So firstly I think we should organise the first thing, getting a
> >>>> president/leader/whatever put in place plus state reps, then letting
> >>>> those elected/appointed people work on organising the rest.
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> >>>> One of the big issues with community groups is getting caught up in the
> >>>> politics of it all. Those age old requirements for
> >>>> president/treasurer/minutes/commitees out the wazoo all scare new people
> >>>> away. People are extroadinarily time limited today so keeping it short
> >>>> and simple is what should be focused on.
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> >>> Once you have a committee you /are/ caught up in the politics. A
> >>> committee is political no matter which way you spin it and offices do
> >>> have requirements.
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> >> I have to agree with Melissa on this one.  The position(s) need(s) to be
> >> given to the person(s) actually able to do the job.  Perhaps if people
> >> are looking for a contact person for each state, we need to have an
> >> out-of-band/unofficial/less-official role which is more along the lines
> >> of what people are looking for with the election-style deal.
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> >> I personally couldn't be bothered jumping through the hoops (not to
> >> mention what seems to me to be a ridiculous amount of self-promotion)
> >> required to be on the LoCo leadership - i have enough to do between
> >> switching between two jobs and keeping a number of different clients
> >> above water.  However, i would be happy to be a contact for people to
> >> talk to about Ubuntu, and i would be happy to organise meetups like
> >> we've had recently here in Brisbane.
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> >> Paul
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> >>   paul.vcf
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> > I also agree that the right people need to be given the job(s), but
> > who decides what is given to whom currently!!!
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> > Until the ubuntu-au membership comes up with an open transparent
> > structure nothing will change.
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> > The status-quo will remain until this is achieved.
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> > Andrew G.  (Brisbane)
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> Trying to avoid multiple reply threads, posting response to last two
> emails here.
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> It seems there are two problems.
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> 1. There is possibly not enough people available to fulfil all the
> positions proposed.
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> 2. There are people that want to act in a nature to represent a
> state/territory/entire community they are in but they feel they do not
> have the opportunity to do so.
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> Therefore to deal with these two potential issues we should...
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> 1. Ask for nominations of interest from people who would like to be the
> contact point for their state and to also . I don't believe there is any
> requirement for each and every state to be involved. There is a heavier
> representation from the eastern states. If there turns out to be only
> interest in a handful of states/territories then so be it. If someone
> comes along later that wants to represent a missing one, then good on
> ya, welcome aboard!
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> 2. If number 1 fails to surface any peoplee then the status quo will remain.
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> I think it is worth a sort of official 'call to arms' to see who comes
> out of the woodwork. There are plenty of people floating around the
> community, just a question of whether they would like to get involved more.
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> If we do not ask it will not happen.
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> Andrew
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