Dumb question

Steve Pagratis stevep at wifi-tech.com
Sun Mar 7 23:10:45 GMT 2010


what is a LoCo ?

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   1. Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU (Matthew Rossi)
   2. Can this 3 mobile be installed on Ubuntu 9.10 (Narayan Murthy)
   3. elections (peter baker)
   4. Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU (AndrewG)


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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:20:44 +1100
From: Matthew Rossi <matt at pcpodcast.org>
Subject: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU
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Hello,

In light of the recent discussions regarding the future of our LoCo, I
thought that I would pitch in my own idea for how we can govern the LoCo.
Over the last few years, it has become obvious that the unstructured way
that our LoCo operates isn't working too well.  From the surface, it doesn't
appear that a lot is being done, and those who are actually volunteering are
flying under the radar.  As a LoCo I believe we should become more organised
and structured in our approach, so I am proposing a small committee system
to be formed within the LoCo to essentially run the show and direct the LoCo
as a whole towards achieving the stated goals of the group.

The following is a basic outline of the structure of my committee proposal.
 There are references to a charter, which would be formed by the committee
itself if established:

Personnel:

*Chairperson (Virtually a Ceremonial Role)*

Responsibilities

   -
   - to act as an independent adjudicator of all elections and votes held
   within the committee itself and the broader LoCo community as per the
rules
   of the charter
   - to give assent to the results of votes and elections as stipulated
   above, and to change the charter where the committee has approved an
   amendment via a vote
   - to ensure that all rules as set in the charter are enforced within the
   organisation
   - to set the time, place, agenda, chair and provide logs/recordings (via
   the mailing list and wiki) of all meetings in consultation with the
   committee
   - to represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the
   organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary.
   - to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if necessary) moderator

If this proposal is implemented, I request that for the first term that I
take the role of chairperson without an election to ensure that this system
is implemented smoothly.

*President (Team Contact)*
*
*
Responsibilities

   - to serve and fulfil the role of Team Contact for the Ubuntu-AU LoCo in
   its present form
   - to organise promotional events, exhibition stalls, CD distribution etc.
   - to represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the
   organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the
public
   - to liaise with the broader Ubuntu-AU community to gain access to
   volunteers for events and to reflect the views of the broader community.
   - to attend and actively contribute to all meetings organised by the
   chairperson
   - to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if necessary) moderator

*Vice-President (Treasurer)*
*
*
Responsibilities

   - to assist the President in the previously mentioned roles
   - to represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the
   organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the
public
   - to liaise with the broader Ubuntu-AU community to gain access to
   volunteers for events and to reflect the views of the broader community.
   - to regularly maintain a database for tracking membership within the
   Ubuntu-AU LoCo and it's committee
   - to track the receipt and allocation of funds and other materials within
   the LoCo
   - to attend and actively contribute to all meetings organised by the
   chairperson
   - to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if necessary) moderator

*Ordinary Committee Member*
*
*
Responsibilities

   - to support and actively contribute to the initiatives set by the whole
   committee
   - to attend and actively contribute to all meetings organised by the
   chairperson
   - to represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the
   organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the
public
   - to represent the views of the wider LoCo community during meetings
   - to serve as a mailing list moderator

Other

   - There will be around 4 - 6 Ordinary Committee Members (the exact number
   to be determined)
   - Preference for 2 of the positions will be given to those who reside in
   a state outside of Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland; as well as a
   younger member of the LoCo.  If the position can not be filled by a
person
   in that target area, the position will be opened to any interested party
   along with the rest of the Ordinary Committee Member positions


Election to the Committee:

   - The Chairperson officially calls and operates all elections and votes
   as per the rules stated in the charter.
   - Ordinary Committee Members will serve two year terms.  At the end of
   the two year term of the group of members elected, an election will be
held
   to any member who has explicitly agreed to the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
within
   the Australian LoCo.  Votes can be registered by any member who is not
part
   of the committee or is standing for election.  After that round of
voting,
   the top candidates (according to the no. of positions available) will be
   elected.  If there are any ties or the Chairperson deems the majority to
be
   not suitable, the committee itself will elect.
   - Vice President's and Presidents will serve three year terms, to be
   elected by the Ordinary Committee Members.  Members on the committee may
   nominate themselves for the positions, and normal LoCo members may have a
   committee member nominate them.
   - The election rules for the Chairperson is the same as for the
   Vice/President, however the Chairperson has an option to extend their
term
   by 2 years without the need for an election.
   - Any elected committee member may re-nominate themselves for new terms.
    There is no limit on the number of terms a committee member can serve.
   - An elected member may resign from their post, or be 'sacked' from their
   position (if they miss a certain number of meeting w/o permission from
the
   Chairperson or if they act in a manner that is against the CoC).  In that
   case, the Chairperson in consultation with the committee may decide to
   either call upon the first runner up of the election from that member, or
   can call an open election for an 'interim member' position to fill that
   position until the expiration of that term as per the above guidelines.

Meetings:

There are two types of meetings.  These include community meetings and
committee meetings.

*Community Meetings*
*
*

   - Meetings to be held in the IRC channel once a month to be chaired by
   the Chairperson
   - The Chairperson will set the time of the meeting in consultation with
   the LoCo members and the committee
   - These meetings are open to any member within the LoCo
   - Anyone can request for points to be added to the agenda, but the person
   who requested the item must attend the meeting in order to explain it
   otherwise that item will be skipped
   - The meeting will be fully logged and the Chairperson will post the log
   onto the mailing list and the Team Wiki

*Committee Meetings*

   - Meetings that include all elected committee members.
   - The Chairperson will arrange the time and venue of the meeting
   - These meetings should occur somewhere between once a month, to once
   every three months.
   - The Chairperson, in consultation with the committee may organise
   meetings to be held in a physical location to allow members of the
committee
   to be able to meet outside of the internet, however this is not
compulsory
   as organising such meetings can be difficult.
   - The Chairperson will publish the recorded minutes of committee meetings
   on the mailing list and the wiki for all LoCo members to read.

This is a basic preamble of the model that I would suggest, and some details
haven't been worked out.  I encourage anyone reading this to tell me what
you think and how you would change it.

Regards,
Matthew Rossi
matt at pcpodcast.org
Tel: +1 253 987 6413
Mob: +61 488 122 990
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 06:33:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Narayan Murthy <blueeyesshine at gmail.com>
Subject: Can this 3 mobile be installed on Ubuntu 9.10
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Yes Subject line makes it pretty clear what I am looking for , please
advise.

Thank You.


Cheers,
Narayan



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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:27:33 +1100
From: peter baker <jellyware at gmail.com>
Subject: elections
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melissa said

While elections are typically how we used to do this back in 2006 when
> we (both the team and ubuntu in general) were much smaller, it's 
> generally now expected that a meritocratic process be followed -- put 
> a motion to the team participants that the role be passed to the 
> particular someone who has demonstrated they can do it, as opposed to 
> taking random names and choosing who is most popular at the time.
>

I don't think that the leader of a community has a right to tell the
community how the position of leader is created or maintained.  I believe we
should have regular elections for leader positions within the community to
ensure that the community remains vibrant/active.

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 14:24:40 -0800 (PST)
From: AndrewG <gandella at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU
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Hi Mathew,

  Thanks for your thoughts as they are very detailed.
  Whilst I agree with your sentiment there are a lot of practicalities in
setting up & maintaining such a structure.

  Some time back I started a Wiki page.  I would suggest that everybody have
a read.

  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/WhiteBoard/BrainStorm  and
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Roadmaps/Lucid/AustralianTeam

  Once again I like some of the ideas especially about setting up a
committee of 'STATE leaders'

Andrew G (Brisbane)



On Mar 7, 11:20?pm, Matthew Rossi <m... at pcpodcast.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In light of the recent discussions regarding the future of our LoCo, I 
> thought that I would pitch in my own idea for how we can govern the LoCo.
> Over the last few years, it has become obvious that the unstructured 
> way that our LoCo operates isn't working too well. ?From the surface, 
> it doesn't appear that a lot is being done, and those who are actually 
> volunteering are flying under the radar. ?As a LoCo I believe we 
> should become more organised and structured in our approach, so I am 
> proposing a small committee system to be formed within the LoCo to 
> essentially run the show and direct the LoCo as a whole towards achieving
the stated goals of the group.
>
> The following is a basic outline of the structure of my committee
proposal.
> ?There are references to a charter, which would be formed by the 
> committee itself if established:
>
> Personnel:
>
> *Chairperson (Virtually a Ceremonial Role)*
>
> Responsibilities
>
> ? ?-
> ? ?- to act as an independent adjudicator of all elections and votes 
> held ? ?within the committee itself and the broader LoCo community as 
> per the rules ? ?of the charter ? ?- to give assent to the results of 
> votes and elections as stipulated ? ?above, and to change the charter 
> where the committee has approved an ? ?amendment via a vote ? ?- to 
> ensure that all rules as set in the charter are enforced within the ? 
> ?organisation ? ?- to set the time, place, agenda, chair and provide 
> logs/recordings (via ? ?the mailing list and wiki) of all meetings in 
> consultation with the ? ?committee ? ?- to represent the Ubuntu-AU 
> LoCo as a leader and to promote the ? ?organisation and the Ubuntu 
> distribution where necessary.
> ? ?- to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if necessary) moderator
>
> If this proposal is implemented, I request that for the first term 
> that I take the role of chairperson without an election to ensure that 
> this system is implemented smoothly.
>
> *President (Team Contact)*
> *
> *
> Responsibilities
>
> ? ?- to serve and fulfil the role of Team Contact for the Ubuntu-AU 
> LoCo in ? ?its present form ? ?- to organise promotional events, 
> exhibition stalls, CD distribution etc.
> ? ?- to represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the ? 
> ?organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the 
> public ? ?- to liaise with the broader Ubuntu-AU community to gain 
> access to ? ?volunteers for events and to reflect the views of the broader
community.
> ? ?- to attend and actively contribute to all meetings organised by 
> the ? ?chairperson ? ?- to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if 
> necessary) moderator
>
> *Vice-President (Treasurer)*
> *
> *
> Responsibilities
>
> ? ?- to assist the President in the previously mentioned roles ? ?- to 
> represent the Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the ? 
> ?organisation and the Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the 
> public ? ?- to liaise with the broader Ubuntu-AU community to gain 
> access to ? ?volunteers for events and to reflect the views of the broader
community.
> ? ?- to regularly maintain a database for tracking membership within 
> the ? ?Ubuntu-AU LoCo and it's committee ? ?- to track the receipt and 
> allocation of funds and other materials within ? ?the LoCo ? ?- to 
> attend and actively contribute to all meetings organised by the ? 
> ?chairperson ? ?- to serve as a mailing list (or IRC if necessary) 
> moderator
>
> *Ordinary Committee Member*
> *
> *
> Responsibilities
>
> ? ?- to support and actively contribute to the initiatives set by the 
> whole ? ?committee ? ?- to attend and actively contribute to all 
> meetings organised by the ? ?chairperson ? ?- to represent the 
> Ubuntu-AU LoCo as a leader and to promote the ? ?organisation and the 
> Ubuntu distribution where necessary amongst the public ? ?- to 
> represent the views of the wider LoCo community during meetings ? ?- 
> to serve as a mailing list moderator
>
> Other
>
> ? ?- There will be around 4 - 6 Ordinary Committee Members (the exact 
> number ? ?to be determined) ? ?- Preference for 2 of the positions 
> will be given to those who reside in ? ?a state outside of Victoria, 
> New South Wales and Queensland; as well as a ? ?younger member of the 
> LoCo. ?If the position can not be filled by a person ? ?in that target 
> area, the position will be opened to any interested party ? ?along 
> with the rest of the Ordinary Committee Member positions
>
> Election to the Committee:
>
> ? ?- The Chairperson officially calls and operates all elections and 
> votes ? ?as per the rules stated in the charter.
> ? ?- Ordinary Committee Members will serve two year terms. ?At the end 
> of ? ?the two year term of the group of members elected, an election 
> will be held ? ?to any member who has explicitly agreed to the Ubuntu 
> Code of Conduct within ? ?the Australian LoCo. ?Votes can be 
> registered by any member who is not part ? ?of the committee or is 
> standing for election. ?After that round of voting, ? ?the top 
> candidates (according to the no. of positions available) will be ? 
> ?elected. ?If there are any ties or the Chairperson deems the majority to
be ? ?not suitable, the committee itself will elect.
> ? ?- Vice President's and Presidents will serve three year terms, to 
> be ? ?elected by the Ordinary Committee Members. ?Members on the 
> committee may ? ?nominate themselves for the positions, and normal 
> LoCo members may have a ? ?committee member nominate them.
> ? ?- The election rules for the Chairperson is the same as for the ? 
> ?Vice/President, however the Chairperson has an option to extend their 
> term ? ?by 2 years without the need for an election.
> ? ?- Any elected committee member may re-nominate themselves for new
terms.
> ? ? There is no limit on the number of terms a committee member can serve.
> ? ?- An elected member may resign from their post, or be 'sacked' from 
> their ? ?position (if they miss a certain number of meeting w/o 
> permission from the ? ?Chairperson or if they act in a manner that is 
> against the CoC). ?In that ? ?case, the Chairperson in consultation 
> with the committee may decide to ? ?either call upon the first runner 
> up of the election from that member, or ? ?can call an open election 
> for an 'interim member' position to fill that ? ?position until the
expiration of that term as per the above guidelines.
>
> Meetings:
>
> There are two types of meetings. ?These include community meetings and 
> committee meetings.
>
> *Community Meetings*
> *
> *
>
> ? ?- Meetings to be held in the IRC channel once a month to be chaired 
> by ? ?the Chairperson ? ?- The Chairperson will set the time of the 
> meeting in consultation with ? ?the LoCo members and the committee ? 
> ?- These meetings are open to any member within the LoCo ? ?- Anyone 
> can request for points to be added to the agenda, but the person ? 
> ?who requested the item must attend the meeting in order to explain it 
> ? ?otherwise that item will be skipped ? ?- The meeting will be fully 
> logged and the Chairperson will post the log ? ?onto the mailing list 
> and the Team Wiki
>
> *Committee Meetings*
>
> ? ?- Meetings that include all elected committee members.
> ? ?- The Chairperson will arrange the time and venue of the meeting ? 
> ?- These meetings should occur somewhere between once a month, to once 
> ? ?every three months.
> ? ?- The Chairperson, in consultation with the committee may organise 
> ? ?meetings to be held in a physical location to allow members of the 
> committee ? ?to be able to meet outside of the internet, however this 
> is not compulsory ? ?as organising such meetings can be difficult.
> ? ?- The Chairperson will publish the recorded minutes of committee 
> meetings ? ?on the mailing list and the wiki for all LoCo members to read.
>
> This is a basic preamble of the model that I would suggest, and some 
> details haven't been worked out. ?I encourage anyone reading this to 
> tell me what you think and how you would change it.
>
> Regards,
> Matthew Rossi
> m... at pcpodcast.org
> Tel: +1 253 987 6413
> Mob: +61 488 122 990
>
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