Ubuntu AU LoCo Restructure Poll

[andrew]

There was no discussion on 'positions' in that meeting.

You are asking me to vote on a model that has 'positions'.

We are really voting on the appointment process.

I have created a poll here  http://www.doodle.com/pn7hyxe77wwr8bka 
 

On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 05:15 -0700, bwright wrote:
> We spent most of the meeting before last on the restructuring so why
> would we repeat it. I will be voting :-)
> On Jun 9, 11:24 am, Jared Norris <jrnor... at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9 June 2010 09:36, andrew <gande... at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Bravo Ryan for bringing this forward,
> >
> > > I will not be voting for any of the structures for the following
> > > reasons.
> >
> > > 1.  At last nights meeting there was no discussion of the actual
> > > positions on the team.
> >
> > > 2.  There has been no discussion on the direction & goals of the team
> > > (of which IMO are very important when deciding on how a team is to be
> > > structured & governed)
> >
> > > If the above are addressed then it comes down to whether we want a
> > > 'Democratic' process where candidates are voted for or a 'Meritocracy'
> > > process where people are appointed.
> >
> > > Models 1 & 1a are clearly 'Meritocracy' and as it stands now, people are
> > > appointed indefinitely until they resign their positions.  This is the
> > > current model.
> >
> > > Model 3 is ONE 'Democratic' representative model based on regional/city
> > > groups.  As there is no 'goal' of developing regional/city groups then
> > > this model is irrelevant.
> >
> > > There are not many reasons why we cannot have a 'Team' elected to
> > > positions based on merit every 12 months.  When people nominate for
> > > positions they can put up their credentials, why they want the position
> > > and what they can do for the Ubuntu-au Loco.
> >
> > > As stated above, when we have a discussion on our goals, we can talk
> > > about positions, then we can talk about an election/appointment process.
> >
> > > This is just my opinion and I know that others will disagree.
> >
> > > Regards,
> >
> > > Andrew G.
> >
> > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 22:21 +0930, Ryan Macnish wrote:
> > >> Hey everyone,
> >
> > >> So, iv made a poll and iv made it so you can only select ONE option,
> > >> although you can change your selection that is irrelevant since its
> > >> not possible to vote multiple times using the same name. If you fake
> > >> it and want to try my patience, then so be it.
> >
> > >>http://www.doodle.com/zift4eahcy3mrvv9
> >
> > >> Ryan Macnish
> >
> > >> ______________________________________________________________________
> > >> Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live?
> >
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> >
> > Andrew and Ubuntu-AU,
> >
> > As far as positions go I thought the meeting basically detailed that
> > to get it going forward we need to first decide what structure people
> > wanted to follow. No one present voiced any objection to this from
> > what I recall. After the structure was determined by the vote we could
> > then look at positions based upon what option people chose. As far as
> > discussing positions within the different structure options I think
> > there is enough detail on the wiki for people to decide what structure
> > is preferred.
> >
> > As far as directions and goals for the team go I thought we already
> > had them, quoted from the wiki "The Australian team focuses on
> > distributing, advertising and demonstrating Ubuntu within Australia.
> > Through the development of our projects we focus on the areas of
> > schools, business and home users".
> >
> > Therefore this vote is the starting point we need to ensure the group
> > is best structured according to what the majority of people think is
> > best suited so that we can move forward with a defined structure. I am
> > sorry that you have chosen not to participate, I respect your
> > decisions but I don't see how that would be constructive. You say this
> > is your opinion not to vote and others will disagree and the whole
> > point of the vote is to get a consensus on everyone's opinions,
> > including yours.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jared Norris.
> >
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