ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010

Ferdinand Lehnard ferdinand.lehnard at web.de
Thu Apr 22 14:34:15 BST 2010


Dear Andre,

thanks for the info. You should think that especially elderly people
with tight budgets will welcome alternatives who offer them a variety of
possibilities in terms of computing - but as you wrote they are all
biased against "free", Linux, open.... Over the the last 20 years they
got sprinkled with the word "Microsoft" either on workplace or later at
home - since Windows 3.0 was coming into the market. There were better
systems earlier in the market, i. e. DR-DOS, the AmigaOS based on C and
Assembler, all forgotten.  

Is there someone planning to go for that meeting? If yes, let me know, I
like to give you support in preparation of the presentation and may be
also personal support during the meeting. I can't say right now, yes I
am coming, or no I am coming not, because for the time being I am not
sure whether I am available - it's in the mid of the week. I just have
some time on weekends.

Ferdinand


-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
To: Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
Cc: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc>, ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:27:32 +1000


Thank you for that information Ferdinand.

A further few comments about ASCCA and its affiliated clubs - a quick
look through what computer training individual clubs offer - I found one
that offers an introduction to Ubuntu (http://users.tpg.com.au/cphills/)
as well as one that teaches Mac.  It is likely that there are more.
Most of them are hopelessly entrenched in Windows although Firefox is
recommended as a browser.

Andre



On 21 April 2010 07:35, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
wrote:
        Dear All,
        the announcement is in their newsletter vol. 12 from February
        2010 and is indeed held in the Power House Museum. Newsletter
        attached
        
        regards
        Ferdinand
        
        
        
        
        
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
        To: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc>
        Cc: ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
        Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
        Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:43 +1000
        
        Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the
        coming conference.
        
        In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in
        Sydney.  Date: 8th and 9th September, 2010.
        
        It may be better to contact ASCCA directly:
        http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html
        
        Andre
        
        
        
        On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc> wrote:
        
                Mitch.  Can you let us know when and where the
                conference will be held
                
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                On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan
                <andremangan at gmail.com> wrote:
                
                
                
                        
                        Hello Mitch,
                        
                        Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA
                        prompted me to contact one of the local Computer
                        Pals for Seniors group.
                        
                        A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear
                        friend got into difficulties with sending emails
                        and I tried to look for support organisations to
                        assist him.  You may be aware how difficult it
                        is to guide someone via the phone and
                        screenshots to solve a computer problem.
                        Apparently a home visit was indicated but none
                        of the organisations under the governmental
                        auspices of providing services to senior
                        Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
                        available to accommodate such a need.
                        
                        The problem in question was eventually resolved.
                        
                        Today, after negotiating an invitation, I
                        attended a local Computer Pals for Seniors
                        group.  I have had about 25 years of experience
                        with computers and thought myself to be
                        adequately qualified to offer my services.  Even
                        then I had to argue my case.  A
                        misunderstanding?
                        
                        Perhaps the word got out that I was there to
                        present "something alien" because an early
                        remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft"
                        gave me some indication of things to come.  I
                        bit my tongue.
                        
                        As the meeting was about to finish I asked for
                        time to address the assemblage.  This was
                        granted.
                        
                        My offering was this: That I was willing to
                        provide assistance with computer problems in the
                        home in return for the reimbursement of
                        traveling expenses  ( I am talking about country
                        distances and country travel ).  That was well
                        received and a negotiator and person for contact
                        was established.
                        
                        I made sure that everyone understood that I was
                        not prepared to teach the use of Microsoft
                        software but would assist anyone who needs
                        assistance out of a tight spot no matter which
                        operating system was in use.
                        
                        I also took the opportunity to question why
                        anyone would use commercial software, especially
                        when the cost to pensioners is considered, the
                        group of people who can least afford it.  One
                        person wanted to argue that MS Word was far
                        superior to OpenOffice.org.  I pointed out that
                        I had not come to argue any case for or against.
                        Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took
                        their photos via Cheese and generally displayed,
                        with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.
                        Unfortunately there was no hot-spot for
                        internet.
                        
                        The group seems to be firmly entrenched in
                        Microsoft products because MS has given them
                        licences for all their software at almost no
                        cost.  Another factor is that many have an
                        "inherited" computer system, one passed down to
                        them as relatives upgrade their equipment and,
                        of course, equipped with Windows.
                        
                        Will I go to the next meeting?  You can bet on
                        it.
                        
                        I noticed that MS is represented as one of the
                        contributors to the Annual Conference in
                        September.
                        
                        I wanted to post this so that whoever is going
                        to represent (or present) Ubuntu at the ASCCA
                        conference in Sydney in September is not caught
                        on the back foot.
                        
                        Good Luck.
                        
                        Andre
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner
                        <mitch.towner.ubuntu at gmail.com> wrote: 
                        
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                                Hi Everyone,
                                
                                            I received some more
                                information today regarding the 2010
                                ASCCA
                                Conference. I was advised that
                                approximately 200 delegates attended the
                                conference last year. As such, this may
                                not be quite such a "grand
                                scale" type of thing as I initially
                                thought.
                                
                                Is anyone interested in helping put
                                together & deliver a presentation at
                                this conference? To be completely
                                honest, I am not much of a public
                                speaker. However I am very keen to help
                                organise a presentation at this
                                conference as I believe that it would be
                                a perfect opportunity to help
                                promote Ubuntu.
                                
                                Kind Regards,
                                Mitch (kermiac on IRC) 
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