ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
Ferdinand Lehnard
ferdinand.lehnard at web.de
Thu Apr 22 14:34:15 BST 2010
Dear Andre,
thanks for the info. You should think that especially elderly people
with tight budgets will welcome alternatives who offer them a variety of
possibilities in terms of computing - but as you wrote they are all
biased against "free", Linux, open.... Over the the last 20 years they
got sprinkled with the word "Microsoft" either on workplace or later at
home - since Windows 3.0 was coming into the market. There were better
systems earlier in the market, i. e. DR-DOS, the AmigaOS based on C and
Assembler, all forgotten.
Is there someone planning to go for that meeting? If yes, let me know, I
like to give you support in preparation of the presentation and may be
also personal support during the meeting. I can't say right now, yes I
am coming, or no I am coming not, because for the time being I am not
sure whether I am available - it's in the mid of the week. I just have
some time on weekends.
Ferdinand
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
To: Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
Cc: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc>, ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:27:32 +1000
Thank you for that information Ferdinand.
A further few comments about ASCCA and its affiliated clubs - a quick
look through what computer training individual clubs offer - I found one
that offers an introduction to Ubuntu (http://users.tpg.com.au/cphills/)
as well as one that teaches Mac. It is likely that there are more.
Most of them are hopelessly entrenched in Windows although Firefox is
recommended as a browser.
Andre
On 21 April 2010 07:35, Ferdinand Lehnard <ferdinand.lehnard at web.de>
wrote:
Dear All,
the announcement is in their newsletter vol. 12 from February
2010 and is indeed held in the Power House Museum. Newsletter
attached
regards
Ferdinand
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Mangan <andremangan at gmail.com>
To: Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc>
Cc: ubuntu-au at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: ASCCA Conference - 8th - 9th September 2010
Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 12:06:43 +1000
Chris, there is nothing on the ASCCA website yet about the
coming conference.
In the past it has been held at the Power House Museum in
Sydney. Date: 8th and 9th September, 2010.
It may be better to contact ASCCA directly:
http://www.ascca.org.au/contact.html
Andre
On 20 April 2010 10:18, Chris Martin <chris at martin.cc> wrote:
Mitch. Can you let us know when and where the
conference will be held
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On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Andre Mangan
<andremangan at gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Mitch,
Your posting on the the existence of ASCCA
prompted me to contact one of the local Computer
Pals for Seniors group.
A primary prompt was when a 90-year-old dear
friend got into difficulties with sending emails
and I tried to look for support organisations to
assist him. You may be aware how difficult it
is to guide someone via the phone and
screenshots to solve a computer problem.
Apparently a home visit was indicated but none
of the organisations under the governmental
auspices of providing services to senior
Australians had the manpower (womanpower)
available to accommodate such a need.
The problem in question was eventually resolved.
Today, after negotiating an invitation, I
attended a local Computer Pals for Seniors
group. I have had about 25 years of experience
with computers and thought myself to be
adequately qualified to offer my services. Even
then I had to argue my case. A
misunderstanding?
Perhaps the word got out that I was there to
present "something alien" because an early
remark of "we don't teach Apple, only Microsoft"
gave me some indication of things to come. I
bit my tongue.
As the meeting was about to finish I asked for
time to address the assemblage. This was
granted.
My offering was this: That I was willing to
provide assistance with computer problems in the
home in return for the reimbursement of
traveling expenses ( I am talking about country
distances and country travel ). That was well
received and a negotiator and person for contact
was established.
I made sure that everyone understood that I was
not prepared to teach the use of Microsoft
software but would assist anyone who needs
assistance out of a tight spot no matter which
operating system was in use.
I also took the opportunity to question why
anyone would use commercial software, especially
when the cost to pensioners is considered, the
group of people who can least afford it. One
person wanted to argue that MS Word was far
superior to OpenOffice.org. I pointed out that
I had not come to argue any case for or against.
Yes, I showed them Ubuntu Karmic Koala, took
their photos via Cheese and generally displayed,
with pride, what Ubuntu has to offer.
Unfortunately there was no hot-spot for
internet.
The group seems to be firmly entrenched in
Microsoft products because MS has given them
licences for all their software at almost no
cost. Another factor is that many have an
"inherited" computer system, one passed down to
them as relatives upgrade their equipment and,
of course, equipped with Windows.
Will I go to the next meeting? You can bet on
it.
I noticed that MS is represented as one of the
contributors to the Annual Conference in
September.
I wanted to post this so that whoever is going
to represent (or present) Ubuntu at the ASCCA
conference in Sydney in September is not caught
on the back foot.
Good Luck.
Andre
On 22 March 2010 19:16, Mitch Towner
<mitch.towner.ubuntu at gmail.com> wrote:
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Hi Everyone,
I received some more
information today regarding the 2010
ASCCA
Conference. I was advised that
approximately 200 delegates attended the
conference last year. As such, this may
not be quite such a "grand
scale" type of thing as I initially
thought.
Is anyone interested in helping put
together & deliver a presentation at
this conference? To be completely
honest, I am not much of a public
speaker. However I am very keen to help
organise a presentation at this
conference as I believe that it would be
a perfect opportunity to help
promote Ubuntu.
Kind Regards,
Mitch (kermiac on IRC)
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