less talk more action

Andrew Gaydon gandella at gmail.com
Tue Apr 13 14:30:27 BST 2010


Umm Yes about 2 years ago.


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Ross Willman <rwillman at gmail.com> wrote:

> I challenge anyone who has a problem with the current situation to
> clearly define what non-bureaucratic action they would take for
> ubuntu-au under a new structure, then answer why they aren't doing
> that now. I honestly don't understand how the current setup has
> stopped anyone from promoting Ubuntu in Australia.
>
> The ubuntu-au community is not lacking structure - it's lacking
> motivated people. Get out there - do stuff to promote Ubuntu in
> Australia. If you do enough, you'll become known within the Ubuntu-au
> community, and the leadership or power (or whatever you want to call
> it) that you worry about will be shared with you.
>
> Anyone that is holding back promoting Ubuntu because they aren't happy
> with the leadership of Ubuntu-au, isn't worthy of any leadership
> themselves. I think that a push for restructure would be looked upon a
> lot more fondly if it came from someone who is a driving force in the
> community. Has anyone making noise about this actually been in the
> community for more than a year?
>
> Ross
>
> On 13 April 2010 22:02, Michael <keltoiboy at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'll get shot down for this I know but I am getting to a stage where I
> > am beyond caring.
> >
> > It is to difficult to do things within this group. I'm not in a
> > situation where I can just do the things that are being suggested
> > throughout the various threads. Instead I know where my talents are
> > and would love to know where I can apply them. Asking simple questions
> > never gets a simple answer, instead as has been pointed out, we are
> > told to go forth and just do whatever. Sorry but for some of us that
> > will not work.
> >
> > The porn thing was used as an example and nothing more. What I found
> > aggravating was it was so hard to get an answer. Let's be serious here
> > the word Google was in the previous sentence yet for some unknown
> > reason people went charging off to something else.
> >
> > As for transparency, I don't care anymore, I don't have the time nor
> > the energy to deal with what is in essence a group under tight
> > control. All that has really been asked for is a chance for the
> > community to have a vote on what is happening. I have nothing further
> > to say on this matter unless I am brought back into it.
> >
> > Ciao for now.
> > Michael (k3lt01)
> >
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