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Fri Dec 18 02:33:18 GMT 2009
seems to be that we have the Team Contact and Area contacts (whether it be
for a single state or single parts of a state). I also suggested that we
include a Junior Contact (preferably under the age of 18, but older people
can be nominated if an under-18 can't be found) to involve younger members
more, and an independent chairperson that runs the meetings and oversees the
election of team/area contacts (that position can be given to someone who
can't necessarily perform the roles of Team/Area Contact but is still
willing to help out here or there). While this is by no means the definite
solution, I thought it would be a good idea to put this onto the mailing
list for the wider community to comment on.
--
Regards,
Matthew Rossi
matt at pcpodcast.org
Tel: +1 253 987 6413
Mob: +61 488 122 990
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<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8 March 2010 16:19, Andrew Gaydon <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gandella at gmail.com">gandella at gmail.com=
</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Matthew,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div class=3D=
"h5">On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Matthew Rossi <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
href=3D"mailto:matt at pcpodcast.org" target=3D"_blank">matt at pcpodcast.org</a=
>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
Hello,<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 8 March 2010 15:40, AndrewG <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:gandella at gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">=
gandella at gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8=
ex;padding-left:1ex">
Nice Summary Matthew.<br>
<br>
<br>
On the State representative model, (of which you know that I am in<br>
favour of)<br>
<br>
This is the way that I see it.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
On Mar 8, 2:01=A0pm, Matthew Rossi <<a href=3D"mailto:m... at pcpodcast.org=
" target=3D"_blank">m... at pcpodcast.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> I agree with what Scott is saying. =A0It would be a good idea to be fl=
agging<br>
> those contributing to this thread as those with a vested interest in t=
he<br>
> LoCo, and that we need to work out overall what our LoCo is trying to<=
br>
> achieve.<br>
><br>
> Going back to the talk about the Governance structure, we have about t=
hree<br>
> different systems going around.<br>
><br>
> We have the present system, which isn't working too well. =A0I don=
't need to<br>
> repeat why because it has already been covered.<br>
><br>
> We have my system, which would struggle to organise events and liaise =
with<br>
> local LUGs in states that do not have representation on the committee.=
<br>
> =A0There are also issues regarding election processes and the idea of =
newer<br>
> members attaining committee spots being out of reach that need to be l=
ooked<br>
> at.<br>
><br>
> We have the state rep system. =A0It works well if there are active rep=
s from<br>
> each state within the LoCo. =A0Elections would never work for that mod=
el as<br>
> the numbers of people in each state are too small, so how do we select=
reps?<br>
> =A0And how do we encourage newer members to get involved as a state re=
p? =A0If<br>
> the process isn't rigid and doesn't allow for regular change, =
then<br>
</div><div>> becomes too hard for newer members. =A0There is also a chan=
ce that we can't<br>
> get state reps for various states, which means that liaising with LUGs=
and<br>
> organising events there would become too difficult.<br>
<br>
</div>1. =A0Each state would elect their own representative for the ubuntu-=
au<br>
council. (on an anniversary date)<br>
=A0 =A0(if there is no person to represent a state, the seat on the<br>
ubuntu-au council would be left open to be filled at a later date)<br>
<br>
=A0 =A0What do you mean about "elections would never work" as th=
e numbers<br>
of people in each state are too small" ??<br></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv>
<div>The number of active people within each state that would be interested=
in voting may be too small. =A0I'm wrong in saying that it would never=
work because if the number of candidates and the number of voters is at th=
e right number which allows for a majority vote to work.</div>
</div></blockquote></div></div><div><br>If there is 'one' person no=
minating for the position, then there would be no need for an election, thi=
s person would be elected un-opposed.=A0 If no-body nominates then the stat=
e will be un-represented.=A0 'A majority' vote is not necessarily n=
eeded.<br>
=A0</div></div></blockquote><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div>If a State is un-represented and somebody wants to be '=
;Elected' then a 'Special meeting' can be called and the person=
elected.<br>
<br>This is not really a problem as I see it.=A0 <br></div><div class=3D"im=
"><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>My concern wa=
s more with there being say 4 candidates between 8 voters, though I suppose=
if necessary we can split it up as per point 2 of your email. =A0Otherwise=
all is good.</div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv class=3D"im"><div>=A0</div>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 2=
04, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
=A0 =A0If you look at the <a href=3D"https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTea=
m/Members" target=3D"_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Members=
</a>,<br>
every state has members.<br>
<br>
2. =A0As each state may have more than one group, ie =A0Brisbane, Cairns,<b=
r>
Gold Coast each can nominate a person to become a state rep.<br>
=A0 =A0An election can then be held if there is more than one<br>
candidate.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That could work.</div><div>=A0</div><b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204=
, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
3. =A0Maybe a 'general' committee member could be used to represent=
'un-<br>
represented' states ???<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That wouldn't work well because th=
en that committee would be formed with people that don't live in that s=
tate, which would make it difficult to do the liaising with local LUGs etc.=
=A0If necessary we could group the smaller state's together. =A0Like w=
e can have one position for SA and NT.</div>
</div></blockquote></div><div><br>Yes this could work.<br>=A0</div><div cla=
ss=3D"im"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px so=
lid rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Andrew G.<br>
<div><br>
><br>
> So, keeping that in mind, let me pose this question, which way do we g=
o? =A0We<br>
> need to have a rigid and transparent structure of governance because i=
t is<br>
> obvious that without one we as a LoCo are going to struggle to get thi=
ngs<br>
> done.<br>
> --<br>
> Regards,<br>
> Matthew Rossi<br>
</div>> <a href=3D"mailto:m... at pcpodcast.org" target=3D"_blank">m... at pcp=
odcast.org</a><br>
<div>> Tel: +1 253 987 6413<br>
> Mob: +61 488 122 990<br>
><br>
</div>> --<br>
> ubuntu-au mailing list<br>
> ubuntu... at lists.ubuntu.comhttps://<a href=3D"http://lists.ubuntu.com/m=
ailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au" target=3D"_blank">lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listi=
nfo/ubuntu-au</a><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Matthew Ros=
si<br><a href=3D"mailto:matt at pcpodcast.org" target=3D"_blank">matt at pcpodcas=
t.org</a><br>Tel: +1 253 987 6413<br>Mob: +61 488 122 990 <br>
</blockquote></div></div><br><br>Keep the thoughts coming along, as in brai=
nstorming we can get something achieved.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Andrew.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>From some brainstorming going on in #ubun=
tu-au-chat, the general consensus seems to be that we have the Team Contact=
and Area contacts (whether it be for a single state or single parts of a s=
tate). =A0I also suggested that we include a Junior Contact (preferably und=
er the age of 18, but older people can be nominated if an under-18 can'=
t be found) to involve younger members more, and an independent chairperson=
that runs the meetings and oversees the election of team/area contacts (th=
at position can be given to someone who can't necessarily perform the r=
oles of Team/Area Contact but is still willing to help out here or there). =
=A0While this is by no means the definite solution, I thought it would be a=
good idea to put this onto the mailing list for the wider community to com=
ment on.<br clear=3D"all">
<br>-- <br>Regards,<br>Matthew Rossi<br><a href=3D"mailto:matt at pcpodcast.or=
g">matt at pcpodcast.org</a><br>Tel: +1 253 987 6413<br>Mob: +61 488 122 990 <=
br>
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