A new Blueprint I have just proposed
karl at kgoetz.id.au
Fri Oct 31 03:43:18 GMT 2008
On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 12:08 +1000, Mark Unwin wrote:
> "It's a good idea but I'd suggest that it has a limited target
> audience. Great for techs though because they only have to carry
> around one DVD but most users will simply want to download the regular
> Ubuntu desktop edition (32 or 64bit)."
> I would assert most "users" who download Ubuntu (at present) are what
> I would call (at least) Power Users, and would derive great benefit
> from this. I think the _majority_ would benefit. So I suppose I
Just because someone is a "Power user" doesn't mean they will benefit
from being able to install 5 different "*buntu" named distributions.
I don't even agree the majority would benefit, what would help more is
an install dvd for one release (EG Ubuntu) that contains a dvds worth of
packages for said release (which I believe already exists)
> disagree with your assertion (ohhh, flamewar !!!).
> I also suggested that another image be retained (in the Blueprint) for
> exactly this reason. Some people will only want an Ubuntu 32bit ISO.
> So leave that there, but make a DVD for eveyone (everything) else.
Not everyone else wants the dvd. For a start, not everyone else has a
(And not everyone else can go and throw down an hours wages to buy a new
> Would also suggest they _only_ make it available via bittorrent, or a
> local ISP mirror. But that's more a business decision, and not in
Actually, its totally within scope. These resources don't just appear.
DVDs take up space on mirrors (master or otherwise), and although
bittorrent reduces overall server load, it still requires a number of
seeds to get bootstrapped.
On the subject of mirrors - its not possible to get the image to the ISP
without making it available somehow. Many (most?) mirrors pull from the
ftp-master (I don't know what Ubuntu calls it), rather then getting it
pushed, so its another image thats opt-in for them. (Point being you
cant push it out to mirrors and not have it at the master server at all)
> "If I were you I'd put it together, then put it up on sourceforge and
> link to it from your own website."
> Not sure exactly what you mean...
> Do you mean the spec or an actual DVD ISO ?
I expect actual isos.
> I have no hope of doing the DVD ISO - I honestly wouldn't know where
> to start.
Hopefully my last email gave you some pointers.
> The spec on the other hand - yes, definatley. I have started one
> already (a detailed spec). Shall be adding it to the Blueprint and (as
> suggested) will put something on Brainstorm. Might even "spam" the
> Ubuntu Forums !!!
If your serious about reaching developers, i doubt the forums are the
correct place to do it. Brainstorm might be.
check lists.ubuntu.com to see if theres a cd dev. related list perhaps.
Karl Goetz <karl at kgoetz.id.au>
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