<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/2/21 Leandro Gómez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:leo.telsen@gmail.com">leo.telsen@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:21 AM, John Baer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:baerjj@gmail.com" target="_blank">baerjj@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Saleel Velankar <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:svelanka@gmail.com" target="_blank">svelanka@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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John,<div><br></div><div>Respectfully I add that once again the overwhelming conversation has been about organizing art, instead of art. It is pointless, boring, and lately highly divisive. We have already lost a team member that I highly respected. Arguing over flickr groups accomplishes nothing. absolutely nothing. Just PM the artists that have contributing to this other group. I have still not seen *any* valid argument from you as to why that group was still active after the illustration announcement; and why these PMs weren't already sent after vish's email.<br>
<br></div><div>you know what, I typed all that but my original feeling was correct. Until this sort of nonsense is tuned down in this group, I don't think I will be actively contributing.</div><div><br></div><div>-- </div>
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<br></div></blockquote></div><br>Saleel,<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>John,</div><div class="im"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I agree with you but from a different point of view. My contributions to this group did not happen out of thin air. I invested countless hours in my best attempts to add value to Ubuntu and the community and I like you grow tired of the "rants" and the "flames". More so I have personally asked folks to join and share their talents and to close their eyes and ears to the behavior of late.<br>
<br>There are 38 submissions to the "Ubuntu Wallpapers - General Illustrations" group and some of these illustrations have thousands of views. I can certainly ask them to resubmit to the other group but I can not hide the perception the reason seems petty.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Can we all agree on: </div><div><br></div><div>* PM the artists asking them to submit their artwork to the official ubuntu-artwork group</div><div>* Close the uawt-10-0 group</div>
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<br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">Sadly I know there will come a time when planning will begin on Natty +1 and I anticipate the question will be asked why is it so difficult to get folks to participate.<br>
<br>The lesson learned is here.<br><br>With respect to your talent and your contributions.<br>
<br>Kind regards,<br><font color="#888888"><br>John<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br>I believe the best I can do is to post a message advising them of the change. I can not close the group as long as there are submissions and there are links.<br><br>This is the approach I took with the Edubuntu group but as you can see submissions continued.<br>
<br>Sadly and with out a doubt folks will walk away with a bitter taste in their mouth and these folks are respected contributors to the greater artwork community.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>John<br><br>