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no entiendo en ingles agradecería la información en español<br><br><img style="cursor:pointer" height="200" alt="" src="" width="300"><br><div><a href="http://www.electro-store.org" target="_blank">http://www.electro-store.org</a><br></div><br><br><br><br>> From: ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Subject: ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6<br>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:34:20 +0100<br>> <br>> Send ubuntu-art mailing list submissions to<br>>         ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> <br>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>>         https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art<br>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>>         ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> <br>> You can reach the person managing the list at<br>>         ubuntu-art-owner@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> <br>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>> than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-art digest..."<br>> <br>> <br>> Today's Topics:<br>> <br>> 1. Re: Improving What We Do! (Hrafn Nordhri)<br>> 2. Re: [Ayatana] Meerkat volume control design<br>> (Matthew Paul Thomas)<br>> 3. Re: Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms)<br>> 4. Re: Improving What We Do! (Matthew Nuzum)<br>> 5. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (John Baer)<br>> 6. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (Martin Owens)<br>> 7. Re: Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms) (John Baer)<br>> 8. quick intro (Jason Rebuck)<br>> 9. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (Thorsten Wilms)<br>> 10. Re: Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens) (marco bernich)<br>> <br>> <br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 06:01:46 -0400<br>> From: Hrafn Nordhri <hrafn@hrafnsvartr.com><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do!<br>> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com><br>> Message-ID: <4CB6D50A.8000402@hrafnsvartr.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br>> <br>> On 10.14 2010 04:46, Thorsten Wilms wrote:<br>> > It still looks like many lost interest when it became clear that the<br>> > Ubuntu default theme and wallpaper is off-limits. It would be up to<br>> > representatives of Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu to make those projects<br>> > appear attractive to contributors in the design realm.<br>> <br>> I would say this is one thing that killed it for me. It really feels <br>> like anything we do here is ignored or put off in some dark corner. If <br>> this is not the case, then I have been mislead.. I haven't been active <br>> on the list because of this impression I have. That said, I haven't left <br>> the e-mail list in hopes that this could change.<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 2<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:50:16 +0100<br>> From: Matthew Paul Thomas <mpt@canonical.com><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] [Ayatana] Meerkat volume control design<br>> To: "Ayatana@lists.launchpad.net" <Ayatana@lists.launchpad.net><br>> Cc: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com><br>> Message-ID: <4CB6D258.7030608@canonical.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>> <br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>> Hash: SHA1<br>> <br>> Dylan McCall wrote on 13/10/10 18:08:<br>> >...<br>> > Right now a regular menu item is used as a title in one place<br>> > (Rhythmbox), and an action in another (Mute). The font and spacing is<br>> > identical in both cases.<br>> >...<br>> <br>> It's an action in both cases.<br>> <br>> - -- <br>> Matthew Paul Thomas<br>> http://mpt.net.nz/<br>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)<br>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/<br>> <br>> iEYEARECAAYFAky20lgACgkQ6PUxNfU6ecqqMACgysAkrpBacDxuDhokCmCX7tne<br>> scIAmwcDq8ibQ/N7FxDUHekMxXIW28lk<br>> =pkAk<br>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 3<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 15:22:44 +0200<br>> From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@freenet.de><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do!<br>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Message-ID: <1287062564.1694.159.camel@charly><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br>> <br>> On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:06 -0400, John Baer wrote:<br>> <br>> > To begin the dialog and to move this effort along I created a Wiki<br>> > page here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Blueprint<br>> <br>> Nice effort to explain things with a diagram.<br>> <br>> With elements of classic flowcharts, you could make it clearer that Stop<br>> is the outcome of "Can it be done?" answered with No. Like here (as<br>> horrible as the gradients and shadows are):<br>> http://www.edrawsoft.com/images/examples/Process-Flowchart.png<br>> <br>> I don't understand why "Join Team" is in that place. Sure, it's a<br>> precondition for "Create Submissions", but how is it directly related to<br>> "Identify Process/Tools"?<br>> <br>> Layout-wise, I'd try to avoid rotated text. How about one color per<br>> role/actor?<br>> <br>> <br>> The process narrative and list of actors are useful and close to what I<br>> think should happen (not that I have a perfectly clear picture in my<br>> mind). The text might become friendlier to an international audience if<br>> we can avoid words like "facilitate", "solicit", "mitigate", "eligible".<br>> <br>> I think one of "Coordinator", "Organizer" or "Planner" will be easier<br>> understood than "Facilitator".<br>> <br>> Maybe "Client" in place of "Owner"? Typically not responsible for the<br>> schedule (except deadline) and not able to define requirements all on<br>> their own.<br>> <br>> <br>> Thanks!<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Thorsten Wilms<br>> <br>> thorwil's design for free software:<br>> http://thorwil.wordpress.com/<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 4<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:45:44 -0500<br>> From: Matthew Nuzum <newz@bearfruit.org><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do!<br>> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com><br>> Message-ID:<br>>         <AANLkTimotQtvcWJCsAO8a1d_VCN4g+cqELHNkm58iqkQ@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Hrafn Nordhri <hrafn@hrafnsvartr.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> > On 10.14 2010 04:46, Thorsten Wilms wrote:<br>> > > It still looks like many lost interest when it became clear that the<br>> > > Ubuntu default theme and wallpaper is off-limits. It would be up to<br>> > > representatives of Xubuntu/Edubuntu/Lubuntu to make those projects<br>> > > appear attractive to contributors in the design realm.<br>> ><br>> > I would say this is one thing that killed it for me. It really feels<br>> > like anything we do here is ignored or put off in some dark corner. If<br>> > this is not the case, then I have been mislead.. I haven't been active<br>> > on the list because of this impression I have. That said, I haven't left<br>> > the e-mail list in hopes that this could change.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> Hi, please don't let that scare you off. In the last few releases the<br>> community has had a greater impact. The flickr pool backgrounds, dust, and<br>> new wave are all from the community. Icons are always in demand.<br>> <br>> Also, the software center provides an opportunity for community themes to<br>> get increased visibility.<br>> <br>> Do it because you love to do it and share your work, not because you want to<br>> be the default desktop experience.<br>> <br>> -- <br>> Matthew Nuzum<br>> newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter<br>> <br>> "An investment in knowledge pays the best interest." -Benjamin Franklin<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/96f8becd/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 5<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:25:37 -0400<br>> From: John Baer <baerjj@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens)<br>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Message-ID:<br>>         <AANLkTincMBCLE=rRXz0cu_pHLo79f+kwaO4rbfO1C0ML@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 5:48 AM, <ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com>wrote:<br>> <br>> > Message: 3<br>> > From: Martin Owens <doctormo@gmail.com><br>> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do!<br>> ><br>> > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:06 -0400, John Baer wrote:<br>> > > Martin you stated in a post on 10/07 your intent to attend UDS. Sadly<br>> > > I can not join you but I and others would like to contribute to<br>> > > discussions in some other manner. I share the same time zone as UDS<br>> > > but I am generally unavailable during the day.<br>> > ><br>> > > Perhaps some impromptu evening meetings on the IRC would be<br>> > > beneficial. :)<br>> ><br>> > If there aren't enough people at UDS from the Art Team, then we may end<br>> > up having to have a real meeting.<br>> ><br>> > My first thoughts on this team is that we need real software to manage<br>> > job requests, announcements (blogs/feeds etc) and submissions. The wiki<br>> > is a stop gap in my opinion which needs a nice and healthy replacement.<br>> > There is no shortage of candidates and we could move more towards debian<br>> > with cchost or more towards fedora with (er, I forget the name) with<br>> > their art management software. We have lots of choice here and I'd be<br>> > happy to head it up and collect together requirements.<br>> ><br>> > Martin,<br>> ><br>> <br>> Martin,<br>> <br>> I like what I see with ccHost and there may be expertise ( *Bryce? ) *to<br>> help mold it into a useful tool.<br>> <br>> The openclipart site looked good ( http://www.openclipart.org/ ).<br>> <br>> However, a couple of questions come to mind.<br>> <br>> 1. Will Canonical host it? If not, then who?<br>> <br>> 2. What does Canonical plan to do with the current Wiki and when.<br>> <br>> John<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/c71a20be/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 6<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:56:08 -0400<br>> From: Martin Owens <doctormo@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens)<br>> To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com><br>> Message-ID: <1287104168.1700.6.camel@marcus><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br>> <br>> On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 20:25 -0400, John Baer wrote:<br>> > 1. Will Canonical host it? If not, then who?<br>> <br>> I have and know many options for hosting, I don't think it'll be a<br>> problem with a medium bandwidth website like this.<br>> <br>> > 2. What does Canonical plan to do with the current Wiki and when. <br>> <br>> I don't think the wiki site is just used for art.<br>> <br>> Martin,<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 7<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 20:57:06 -0400<br>> From: John Baer <baerjj@gmail.com><br>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Thorsten Wilms)<br>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Message-ID:<br>>         <AANLkTinUhoVhm0pqxu7gTDdbMSUK9xoFFOcsejnipauy@mail.gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>> <br>> Thorsten,<br>> <br>> Thanks for all your comments. I certainly understand your frustration with<br>> the Wiki.<br>> <br>> I wonder how the "Ubuntu Weekly News Team" feel about the tool? They submit<br>> a lot of wiki content.<br>> <br>> As for the Artwork Team, if the wiki went away what impact would it have?<br>> <br>> John<br>> -------------- next part --------------<br>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>> URL: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20101014/2efe67a8/attachment-0001.htm <br>> <br>> ------------------------------<br>> <br>> Message: 8<br>> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 19:34:29 -0700<br>> From: Jason Rebuck <jason.rebuck@gmail.com><br>> Subject: [ubuntu-art] quick intro<br>> To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com<br>> Message-ID: <4CB7BDB5.4010706@gmail.com><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br>> <br>> <br>> Hello everyone,<br>> <br>> My name is Jason. I think I might be able to help out (or at least give some input). I was a graphic arts major in college and have been doing graphic/web design for the past 5 years. I've been using ubuntu as my main OS for the past 3 years. I mainly use Adobe CS at work, but I've started to feel comfortable around Gimp and Inkscape. I know PHP,Python and some Perl and Bash scripting. This summer I built my second Linux