<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd"><html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }</style></head><body style=" font-family:'DejaVu Sans'; font-size:9pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">On Sunday 12 April 2009 11:06:29 Thorsten Wilms wrote: > On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 19:48 -0700, Smartboy wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Cory K. <coryisatm@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > > We are a listless bunch. Very little direction and nothing to hold us > > > together. (sorry to be critical. I think we need more of it) > > > > > > I was rolling around the idea of an art council to set rules and > > > guidelines. Define what we are and what we hope to achieve. A 4 member > > > group or so. > > > > > > But besides that, what would it do? > > > > > > Hell, I even question if this "team" of ours should be open and is a > > > moderated team of old-timers and knowledgeable folks something we > > > should have? All very tricky. Should anyone be on the art team? Might > > > hurt somebody's feelings but I often wonder "How are you and why is > > > your opinion important?" Now this is not something I think of when > > > someone takes the time to detail out *why* they have their opinion. > > > It's the crazy 1-liners like "That's ugly." or "I don't like brown." > > > So!? Ok. Bit of a rant that one. :P > > > > > > So who are we? What's our future? > > > > > > I'm just kinda throwing this out there. Maybe I'm nuts. > > > > > > > > > -Cory K. > > > > > > -- > > > ubuntu-art mailing list > > > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > > Well, a page to define what we are not might be nice. IE, a page that > > explains that we do not develop for the default Ubuntu artwork (that > > is Canonical's art team's job), but for the community package. > > > >From https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork: > > == About the Artwork Team == > The goal of the "Artwork Team" is to produce artwork for the community > side of Ubuntu. > > The Artwork Team aims to enrich Ubuntu by designing high quality, > original and beautiful themes to be available in the repo as an > *alternative* to the default look. > > > I think > > that giving the impression that the 'team' (if you would call it that) > > was open is actually in line with Ubuntu's philosophy, rather than it > > giving the impression that you have to be some Picasso in order to > > join the team. Yes, we do get the bad, but what is the good without > > the bad? > > I think we could have avoided a lot of hot air if we had a single > moderated or outright closed list from the start. Where people are only > granted membership after showing that they know what they will talk > about by submitting artwork that is deemed to be of reasonable quality. > Judged by the current members. > > It would be great if we could have a way of helping people to improve > their skills, even starting from an outright beginner level. Another > kind of being open to everyone. I think that having a seperate moderated list with a few selected community members who have proven their dedication by their helpful contributions and support over a longer time not only has the benefit of strengthening the community it also allows for a channel of discussion with the canonical design team. The infrastructure is available, perhaps it is time to look into having monthly meetings again to have a forum for voting for this stuff. -- Ken </body></html>