<div dir="ltr">2008/10/7 Thorsten Wilms <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t_w_@freenet.de">t_w_@freenet.de</a>></span><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 11:00 +0200, Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen wrote:<br> <br></div><div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > I do not necessarily agree that Ubuntu *is* these things all the way<br> > through, but I agree that this is some of the things that we *want*<br> > Ubuntu to be. Regarding the actual items allow me to comment.<br> <br> </div>The message is not necessarily restricted to what Ubuntu appears to be<br> now. This is because perception _is_ truth here, to some degree. Thus I<br> added a note:<br> <br> "The message is not restricted to what anyone thinks of Ubuntu now, but<br> is entirely about it should be seen in the future."<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>Ok, good. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d"> <br> <br> > Item three definitely stands out in a good way. The good things about<br> > the wording in 3 is: Short. Very clear. Friendly, non formal, tone.<br> > Good picture to describe the idea.<br> ><br> > Regarding these things 1 is worst and 2 is somewhere in the middle.<br> > Maybe they could be reformulated to be more in the style of 3?<br> <br> </div>How about:<br> * distinct from other offerings. That means there has to be something<br> about the design that you do not find elsewhere.<br> <br> * a viable alternative of professional quality. Stand out not like a<br> clown, but like a champion.</blockquote><div><br>Much better :-) <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d"> <br> > One item I personally miss a bit (that is partially covered, but not<br> > entirely) by the other items is something like<br> ><br> >  * Professional. While Ubuntu is partly driven by volunteers it is<br> > professional in execution<br> <br> </div>I tried to make that clear in the 2nd proposal above, as I don't think<br> it can be split from the appearance of being being a viable alternative.<br> </blockquote><div><br>Yes. I think this covers my intentions.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">> > Extended Message. Ubuntu is<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"> > ><br> > >      * based on cooperation and sharing<br> > >      * global<br> > >      * about software freedom<br> ><br> > How about:<br> ><br> >  * Forthcoming/Welcoming ?<br> <br> </div>Good one. Should be first, actually. "Friendly and welcoming", as<br> "forthcoming" sounds a bit like it would act on its own before you ask,<br> I think :)<br> <div class="Ih2E3d"></div></blockquote><div><br>Yeah, "Friendly and welcoming" is much better than my proposals. I am glad you are the one writing the docs ;-)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d"><br> > That's where I stopped. Hope it is useful.<br> <br> </div>Your entire post is exactly the kind of input I am hoping for. Thank<br> you, Mikkel!<br> <div></div></blockquote><div><br><br>You are most welcome :-) <br></div></div><br><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br>Mikkel<br> </div>