<div dir="ltr">Just a small suggestion... Gnome 2.24 has been released and with it (if you read the release notes) is a collection of very nice set of wallpapers taken after a competition. It would be great if these are included by default or maybe included in the repositories. <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 5:58 PM, <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Send ubuntu-art mailing list submissions to        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit        <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at        <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-art digest..." Today's Topics:   1. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Michael Garate)   2. Re:  Ky?d?: Audience and  Message (Giuseppe Pennisi)   3. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Gary Stanley)   4. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Vadim Peretokin)   5. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (symon cadwallender)   6. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Adam)   7. Re:  ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 (Michael Stephenson)   8. Re:  Ky?d?: Audience and  Message (Adam)   9. Re:  Application support (Cory K.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 07:21:53 -0400 From: "Michael Garate" <<a href="mailto:mpgarate@gmail.com">mpgarate@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:b29b51ce0809260421l3a6789bbs3993339fe33405ca@mail.gmail.com">b29b51ce0809260421l3a6789bbs3993339fe33405ca@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For the rest, I think is more important make something that is not only beauty or easily to use but is ready to use without that people should do particular settings. Ubuntu must be a package ready to use. Also in the themes should be ready to use, creating more solutions of the same theme. Infact in some themes is not enough simply change the colors in the control panel but must work in the code to adjust some values and for users this is not simple. And they don't want. Sorry for my English, I hope you understand. gp ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:43:05 +0100 From: "Gary Stanley" <<a href="mailto:gstanley@admin.eastdevon.ac.uk">gstanley@admin.eastdevon.ac.uk</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 To: "Discussion on Ubuntu artwork" <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID:        <<a href="mailto:CAE68FC18B536142BE93ACF13375821708953D@XENON.eastdevon.ac.uk">CAE68FC18B536142BE93ACF13375821708953D@XENON.eastdevon.ac.uk</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I feel much the same way. I've been watching the art discussion list for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of development is almost like an afterthought. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing out better software to be included in the next release,  but the lack of a "pretty" interface it isn't helping the migration of users over to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain "eye candy" on those operating systems and that is all they care about ... Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion. From: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a>] On Behalf Of Michael Garate Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22 To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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But with no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope of the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final theme to be in Beta, and it being good... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome' By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick of ubuntu kaddy On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Vadim Peretokin <<a href="mailto:vperetokin@gmail.com">vperetokin@gmail.com</a>>wrote: > A lot of people on social networking sites are expecting a new theme > also... everybody got scared when the horrid completely brown theme was > being tested, but others comforted them that it was just testing. But with > no themes improving (the little bits really don't count in the whole scope > of the expectations) with the Alphas, everyone is hoping for the final theme > to be in Beta, and it being good... > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20080926/c239c240/attachment-0001.htm" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/attachments/20080926/c239c240/attachment-0001.htm</a> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:18:32 +0200 From: Adam <<a href="mailto:gusztee@gmail.com">gusztee@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <1222431512.6450.9.camel@adamdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 12:43 +0100, Gary Stanley wrote: > I feel much the same way. I?ve been watching the art discussion list > for quite some time and the one thing that comes across more than > anything (or it appears like it to me) is that the art side of > development is almost like an afterthought. i totally agree, and i think that everybody is expecting the new theme as well, however this is the ubuntu-art list and if we dont know about this new theme than i dont know who would. we have good and nice community themes. dust is my personal favorite, but it is still very buggy, and many bugs cannot be fixed without the applications developers. the only way it could be implemented is if they would put it in default at the beginning of the next release, so all the developers have 6 months to correct there application interfaces. most of the problems come from the different background and toolbar color btw. > > > Don?t get me wrong, I applaud the effort in killing bugs and bringing > out better software to be included in the next release,  but the lack > of a ?pretty? interface it isn?t helping the migration of users over > to Linux from Windows or Apple when they are used to certain ?eye > candy? on those operating systems and that is all they care about ? > Canonical and Ubuntu are missing a trick here in my lowly opinion. > > > > From: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > [mailto:<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art-bounces@lists.ubuntu.com</a>] On Behalf Of Michael > Garate > Sent: 26 September 2008 12:22 > To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 > > > > > I'm really disappointed if the new theme has been postponed again. > This is exactly what happened for the hardy release :( > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:30:18 +0100 From: Michael Stephenson <<a href="mailto:mickstephenson@googlemail.com">mickstephenson@googlemail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 67 To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <1222432218.7037.1.camel@michael-desktop> Content-Type: text/plain On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 20:16 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote: > Lol. What do you expect from Ubuntu. They will never have a good > theme, either will Gnome. Gnome havn't got the balls to do it, Go Kde. > Im so sick of Ubuntu and Gnome and their 1980's mentality that i just > switched to Opensuse/Mandriva Kde. Atleast Kde are more in touch with > today's standard. 'F ubuntu and gnome' > By the way, how the hell do I unsubscribe from this shit. Im so sick > of ubuntu > kaddy See this link at the bottom of every post, click it. <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> Good riddance Troll. ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:24:37 +0200 From: Adam <<a href="mailto:gusztee@gmail.com">gusztee@gmail.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Ky?d?: Audience and   Message To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <1222431877.6450.16.camel@adamdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > So we need: > -Vid editor > -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..) > > And a pretty interface, of course! i agree we need a good video editor, like imovie, and openoffice is great but they have so dumb mistakes (for example if you would use a lot of shortcuts like alt+menushortcut+menuitemshortcut, in openoffice ater u hit alt it opens the file menu so you have to hit escape and than start hitting the other shortcuts, seems a stupid thing but if u use office all day u need these shotcuts..) or comparing impress to apples keynote.. different dimensions. however i dont think the games are so important. people play on xbox not on pc anymore. > > -- > > Jos? Luis Ric?n <<a href="mailto:artirj@gmail.com">artirj@gmail.com</a>> > > ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:28:21 -0400 From: "Cory K." <<a href="mailto:coryisatm@ubuntu.com">coryisatm@ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Application support To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:48DCD565.3000100@ubuntu.com">48DCD565.3000100@ubuntu.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Adam wrote: >> So we need: >> -Vid editor >> -Third party office support(PS, After Effects, AutoCad..) >> >> And a pretty interface, of course! >> > > i agree we need a good video editor, like imovie, and openoffice is > great but they have so dumb mistakes (for example if you would use a lot > of shortcuts like alt+menushortcut+menuitemshortcut, in openoffice ater > u hit alt it opens the file menu so you have to hit escape and than > start hitting the other shortcuts, seems a stupid thing but if u use > office all day u need these shotcuts..) > or comparing impress to apples keynote.. different dimensions. > > however i dont think the games are so important. people play on xbox not > on pc anymore. This is all very off-topic. Please separate of a topic (especially if it hijacks one as important as Ky?d?) next time. (general note for all ^^^) -Cory K. ------------------------------ -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> End of ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 39, Issue 68 ****************************************** </blockquote></div> </div>