<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Cory K. <<a href="mailto:coryisatm@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">coryisatm@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > While the theme team process seems to work very well now, I think we > could do better. My allies and I would like to push things towards a > solid design process. > > One that starts with the question what it actually is what we want to > achieve, what our message is and who we are addressing. Goals we can > agree on and that will lead us through the design, helping us to > collaborate in a larger team in a meaningful way. > > A process that will lead us out of the shadows of purely personal > opinion and hidden assumptions towards the light of reason. > > A process where we will not jump unto the first idea, but develop and > test several designs for each little part. Where we will not restart on > the next cycle, but build upon the existing. Continuous refinement. > > One that will offer anyone a chance to learn about design in a deeper > way and that will show onlookers that we are damn serious while we enjoy > the ride! > > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/KyudoGuidelines</a> > > > Please read through it carefully. As you can see, it is by no means > complete. That's where you come in! All content, all questions and > suggestions can be discussed right here. Consider to start new threads > for specifics. Tell us how you think and feel about this! > As de-facto community lead atm I wanna give this effort a big +1. I believe This is a great step in the right direction for us. I do however have a question to throw out there, and forgive me Thorsten because I've asked in chat already. I just want to pose it for a wider audience. :) Do you see this as guiding *all* of what we do, or, just upon a particular *community decided* idea/theme? Something that can be decided at the beginning of each cycle or something? I ask because we shouldn't dictate that people *have* to create by these rules. I feel that only people that *want* to be involved with the larger, focused, effort will have to. Yes/No? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> </blockquote></div> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name="ProgId" content="Word.Document"><meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><meta name="Originator" content="Microsoft Word 12"><link rel="File-List" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cstudent%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_filelist.xml"><link rel="themeData" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cstudent%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_themedata.thmx"><link rel="colorSchemeMapping" href="file:///C:%5CDOCUME%7E1%5Cstudent%5CLOCALS%7E1%5CTemp%5Cmsohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_colorschememapping.xml"><style>  </style> I think ultimately, if we were to make people create themes by these rules, then it would stifle our creativity, and ultimately lead to less people working with the team. Our current process may not be efficient, but it is very free in allowing people to create what they would like to see Ubuntu use. Going to something where people are made to follow a stricter set of guidelines than current ones, which only allow one "official" community theme to be made, then it will make more people mad when their piece of the project. I think if 2 or 3 different "official community" theme candidates were allowed to be produced with this process, it would at least allow more creative freedom at a minimum. But ultimately if someone chooses not to follow the guidelines and decides to go their own way with their theme, that would still be allowed to be a community theme candidate. Smartboy </div>