<div dir="ltr">Ahwell... you know what they say... We'll have to agree to disagree.... In regards to me "speaking for other people" I read ALOT about every topic you can imagine about Linux and Ubuntu in particular... which is my fav distro... I read ALOT of other peoples opinions and I ask them what their opinion is on the subject.... Also... I have been to uni doing Network Engineering, I have seen ALOT of Students get introduced to different flavours of linux for the first time.... and... I have been in classes where students have seen and Tried Ubuntu for the first time and have dismissed it as being crap.. just because they don't find it visually appealing... Not knowing how truley great this Operating System is... However, They always seem to take a liking to Other distro's like Fedora, Pclinuxos, Bsd, Sabayon, Linux Mint etc... Unfortunately People DO judge a book by its cover.... Ubuntu is probably the BEST distro of linux out there, especially for noobies... but it Needs to Improve its Artwork/Themes to appeal to a much larger audience... and that is FACT. agree or disagree with me, i don't care.. i have seen it with my own eyes.... I have spoken and asked ALOT of peoples opinions, and im judging that based on what I think... and What i Know from other peoples reactions....Afterall.... Even I am guilty of hating ubuntu when i first tried it because i thought it was ugly, until i learned the ins and outs of it and started to like it... but I have been up and down between Kde and Gnome for years... Kde has Always looked better, and Gnome has always been less buggier and has worked better... If only we can get Ubuntu/gnome to look up to standard with Kde, we will have a better chance to compete with Kde now that Kde 4.1 is getting VERY good as time goes by..... This is what i want to see. symon. <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:09 PM, Thorsten Wilms <<a href="mailto:t_w_@freenet.de">t_w_@freenet.de</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 18:51 +0800, symon cadwallender wrote: > See.... The lovers of the Original Ubuntu Human theme Always get > offended when somebody comments I didn't defend past and current theming as a whole. I'm not offended. I took issue with your statement implying that you _know_ how a majority feels about orange. You try to frame your opinion as being in line with a majority. Not that I'm without guilt in this regard, but we all should raise up from that level here. For the rest of what you wrote: a new release is reason enough for at least some changes to theming, if only to signify that the distro itself changed. Thank you for not simply following my plea/advice. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: <a href="http://thorwil.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://thorwil.wordpress.com/</a> -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> </blockquote></div> </div>