On Feb 10, 2008 10:14 PM, Troy James Sobotka <<a href="mailto:troy.sobotka@gmail.com">troy.sobotka@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div>Jan Niklas Hasse wrote:<br>> GNOME Applets aren't an alternative because they are only available for<br>> GNOME. XCFE, KDE, Windows for example use GTK+ applications, too!<br>> So please stop blaming developers that they shouldn't use the<br>
> notification area without providing an alternative with the same quality<br>> or wait until such an alternative is available.<br><br></div></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I don't think anyone was blaming anyone. I have an extremely difficult<br>time seeing exactly what you appear flustered about.</blockquote><div><br>I'm flustered about losing all my loved tray icons like skype, pidgin, rhythmbox, tracker. And these bug reports ("remove tray icon, that's not the place for an application to be") exist!<br>
<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">The reality is that there HAS been work to try and get the Notification<br>Tray some standardization. Free Software tries to support more than a<br>
few ideas at FreeDesktop.org. This seems relevant.</blockquote><div><br>That's good and i hope that this work gets finished before someones is filling out new bug reports.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
If you want small icons for your running programs, I would assume this<br>can be accomplished through other means.</blockquote><div><br>As i said, i'm not aware of any good working alternative.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
If an app isn't 'notifying' you of something in a transient manner, it<br>simply doesn't appear it should be in that tray according to the spec.</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
That could very well be a bug.</blockquote><div><br>You're right, but i would mark it as a WONTFIX, because there's no alternative for the developers.</div></div><br>That's exactly what i wanted to say:<br><br>
"Completely agree. If this goes further, that apps in system tray<br>_should not_ be removed untill that new feature is completely<br>implented and functional."<br><br>And if they shouldn't be removed, their shouldn't be any bug reports demanding that.<br>