I agree with you Ken, We must have a theme based on elephant for the walpaper and for the GDM (with 2 possibilities : the list of users and the other one...), We must use the brown colors for Ubuntu, and the blue colors for Kubuntu. For the 2D icones, it will be necessary to change them, for making them more modern... I think it will be necessary to make 3D icones too. For Gnome, i think it will be interesting to use Ubuntu Tweak ( <a href="http://ubuntu-tweak.com/">http://ubuntu-tweak.com/</a> ) instead of gconf-editor. For the theme, i think it was necessary to hav the possibility to change all the colors of all the elements... But it was necessary to have the possibility to keep the "old themes" we use actualy in 7.10, and int the precedents... Others propositions : I would like that the Logitech camera will be better recognise (the mine isn't recocnise) I would like that the dual screen was automaticaly used if there are two screen (my second screen isn't recocnise automaticaly, i must modify the xorg.conf and i think it is not normal) Eventualy, make the 3D by default for the computers able to do it... Sorry for my verry bad english... i hope you understand me. Sam7 <div>2008/1/28, Kenneth Wimer <<a href="mailto:kwwii@ubuntu.com">kwwii@ubuntu.com</a>>:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi all, This mail attempts to clear up some issues in the art direction for Hardy Ubuntu. As already stated we will not be changing things radically. Here are some of the things I would like to see changed and some possible ideas for them. 1) Wallpaper: Ideally dark and mysterious yet modern, clear and clean     a) It should use the palette (in a previous post, email me if you missed it)     b) If nothing else, we will continue to use the elephant background for Hardy. 2) GDM: Lighter, friendlier than the wallpaper but inline as far as artwork goes.     a) Until now we have used a different background image for GDM (ie not the wallpaper). I would like to see Ubuntu use a common look for the entire experience (usplash throuh GDM, Desktop) but this is not a definite *must have* for Hardy. If possible we can work towards this. 3) 2D Panel Icons: simplified panel icons - those on the right side, some (me) might call them system tray icons :-) I've looked into using an etched look for these as well as a very simple 2D look. I'll be posting these images later today so we can look into the possiblities and discuss them. 4) Murrine or Clear Looks as a GTK/WinDeco theme. The overall look should not change radically, and in any case the colors should be very similar, perhaps moving slightly to a bit more orange version (but only slightly).     a) I would like to use a theme in which one can change the colors (not possible using the older style gtkrc). Ideas have been posted based on the clear looks engine but they have the problem that the selected menu items look too pale/light compared to what we have now and each toolbar/menubar/etc has a line between them. Murrine seems to be the most flexible theme, perhaps it would be the way to go. In addition to all of this we have lots of bugs with icons: menu icons, and especially the package related icons in the System menu. I'd like to see some Look forward to more of this in the future :-) Thanks, Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> </blockquote></div>