Looking over the mockups, it's easy to see what's getting popular, and what the overall look should resemble; The only problem is, we're all making these designs and unless the "perfect" design pops into place, none of our designs will be the next Ubuntu theme - come 8.04 it will just be the same bland theme because everyone was waiting for the white whale to appear. So instead of waiting for someone to just make the perfect theme, why don't we list the elements, concepts and ideals everyone most likes from the concepts we've seen? With a list of generally accepted features, we can start getting some serious contenders for the default look, because we won't be firing blind, and we'll have something to work towards I'll throw a few things out to get things started, and maybe after a little give & take from we could narrow something down. I'm trying not to be biased having my own theme in the mix, so please call out anything I throw in there that seems self-serving. In []'s are themes/concepts that use whichever feature, with "Mailing List" just being anything bounced around here.  - No Gloss, Use Gradients [Kerberos, BasicIdeals, Mailing List]  - "Unified" titlebar/toolbar [Hardline, BasicIdeals]  - Semitransparent Windows, panels (providing GTK uses Cimi's mod, or we use a modified GTK) [Kerberos, Hardline, BasicIdeals, Mailing List]  - The theme should feel "lightweight" [Thorwils' Design, FloodCassos' Design, Mailing List]  - Custom icons/notifications to match panels [Mailing List] -- -Ken Vermette