2007/11/23, Günther Beyer <<a href="mailto:contact@guentherbeyer.de">contact@guentherbeyer.de</a>>:<div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I'm going with James. The use of brown colours hat always been a little shy in Ubuntu, but you can do so much more. Think about the combination of brown nuances and white - very smooth and eyepleasing. Brown and black - very strong. Brown with green and blue - fresh, modern. Brown with red and orange - eyeblasting.</blockquote><div> Agree. Just look any of lyrae's themes. <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=lyrae&action=contents"> http://www.gnome-look.org/usermanager/search.php?username=lyrae&action=contents</a> He/she uses browns and makes the greatests themes I've ever seen in Linux. </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Some thoughts on icons. Most people are bored by the glossy look of the Human Theme. But like someone pointed out, it would be a problem, if a new icontheme would not work with Tango anymore - Suse, Fedora, ... Maybe it would be way better, to rework a huge part of the actual icontheme, making them a little more realistic, making them somehow cleaner than they actually are. Hylkes Discovery icons are a good start or maybe could fuse with the new ones. What about this one: <a href="http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Simple+Human">http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Simple+Human</a> +folders?content=41750</blockquote><div> What do you think about starting at this point? <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dropline+NOU%21?content=53292">http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Dropline+NOU%21?content=53292</a> I think that combines Ubuntu look with more realistic & less glossy icons.  </div> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I've got the feeling, that souch a small change is exactly the right thing for a new Ubuntu Desktop. A simple gradient instead of the glossy feel. Am Donnerstag, den 22.11.2007, 16:59 -0800 schrieb Troy James Sobotka: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Jan Niklas Hasse wrote: > > IMHO brown is one of the ugliest colours. I'm sorry but it reminds me of > > several bad things. Please don't decide to make a brown theme, orange is > > ways better. > > > I'm sorry to bother the list responding to this, but I feel > that I must. > > This is the absolute most rubbish opinion ever offered up. > > It is a poorly researched, poorly understood, and knee jerk > reaction.  Your understanding is not only misguided, it is > riddled with flaws that anyone with any ounce of design sense > would understand. > > > Ubuntu's brown is pitiful _only_ because of poor execution.  Arguably, > brown is having a bit of a second life in many other areas of design. > > Notably, as has been said a 100000 times before: > > 1) Ubuntu's use of brown is monochromatic and extremely underwhelming. > A compliment or split compliment would fix this along with the > permission to use contrast from lights to darks.  Brown could easily > remain the base if fleshed out with some supporting cast members. > > 2) Brown has been used many times by many different designers > extremely effectively.  Of notable worth you may wish to research > some contemporary designs utilizing crests, grunge, etc.  Common > pairings are brown with the compliment blue.  Starbucks recently > launched a new campaign using brown as a base with white and a > petal blue.  And yes, many design awards have been won with brown > as a base. > > 3) "Orange is always better".  Superlatives are an immediate sign > that the statement is probably riddled with flaws.  Make no mistake, > monochromatic orange is no better than monochromatic brown.  For further > reflection on this, compare the weak Fedora 8 work to the extremely > strong Fedora 7 work.  The horribly monotonous work in SUSE is also > a byproduct of monotony. > > There is a line between consistency and monotony, and no matter what > colour or psycho-semantic-tripey rubbish that someone is trying to > peddle about color psychology, in the end, it is the monochromatic > lack of contrast that is killing Ubuntu's use of brown. > > Sincerely, > TJS > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - <a href="http://enigmail.mozdev.org">http://enigmail.mozdev.org</a> > > iD8DBQFHRiX9ar0EasPEHjQRArGaAKDGxK1DOvkM9QkcrM04gKe+13bOhACgmu0Z > WYgOUoU2ikHTX3ot6Ledc/0= > =Rebz > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -- ubuntu-art mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art</a> </blockquote></div> -- Álvaro.