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On Sat, 2006-05-27 at 19:24 +1000, Pascal Klein wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 20:46 -0500, Billy wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 23:25 +1000, Pascal Klein wrote: </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > On Fri, 2006-05-26 at 02:34 -0500, Billy wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > Yes, and the idea that there should be just primary colors is why</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > ubuntu art falls short of the mark. Do you have a second choice in</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > Windows? Do you have second choice in mac? I've said it many times.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > Why not linux? Why not Ubuntu? People have repeatedly asked for it</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > from Ubuntu's beginning and everytime this 'Human' branding thing is</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > stated. Human/Ubuntu branding would not be lost by offering an</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > alternative. It would howerver give people a choice and Ubuntu is</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > Linux above and before everything else.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > <A HREF="http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png">http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > This is true. GNU/Linux and Ubuntu is about choice. You are not</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > compelled to use Human. Currently (running Dapper) I could 17 or so</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > themes in the main display of the themes dialoge. Is that not enough? If</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> > the user really wants more sites like GNOME-look.org exist for that purpose.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> I don't know what they've done with the packages, because i haven't</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> seen anything new or diff. From what I understood, upon a default</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> install, gnome themes would be cleaned out and your choices would be</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -clearlooks</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -Human</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> -5 themes from the art-team</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> So where are you getting 17 or so?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">I am talking about System -> Preferences -> Theme</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Not including the ones I added after the initial install:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Human</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Clearlooks</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Crux</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Glider</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Grand Canyon</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">High Contrast</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">High Contrast Inverse</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">[...]</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Simple</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Smokey Blue</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Traditional</FONT>
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Again, you are not listening....Crux, Glider, Grand Canyon, High Contrast Inverse, Simple, Smokey Blue, Traditional<BR>
are to be removed.<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">The point I was trying to make is that we should focus on the results</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">for Dapper and then meet up, discussing leadership positions and other</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">things on the meeting agenda before we individually do what we please.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">It is a much more organised fashion to get work done and allows us to</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">coordinate our efforts. This was in response to Viper's original email</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">on the Subject lines matter. :)</FONT>
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I said that days ago.<BR>
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">> You miss the point. Human is ubuntulooks. So is Dapper-Drake and</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Silicon, if they made it into the packaging. They do not have the</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> other elements of the Human desktop enviornment.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> Ubunulooks-Quicksilver (I don't like its colors) would have been good</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> for that since so many people like blue. Tango is install by default</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> but there's no gtk theme to go with. That makes a lot of sense. The</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> only attempt to unify the desktop is with Human. I mentioned Windows</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> and Mac as an example to say that another (or 2 or 3) good, unified</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> desktop env should be offered in any os claiming to be in the race</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> with the others. Otherwise, stick with ugly gnome defaults, slap a</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> clearlooks together, use Tangerine and go home. Yet, that's not what</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> anyone wants, is it?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">> <A HREF="http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png">http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png</A></FONT>
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