2006/5/2, bvc <<a href="mailto:bvcmdk@yahoo.com">bvcmdk@yahoo.com</a>>:<div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="direction: ltr;"><span class="q" id="q_10af31e95475220c_0"><br><br><b><i>Mikkel Kamstrup Erlandsen <<a href="mailto:mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
mikkel.kamstrup@gmail.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> Most Important things first (in random order):<br><br>1) I generally think we should avoid pixmap themes all together. They bring my box to its knees :-S, I will not comment on them here.
<br><br>2) I think that all included themes should have some kind of Ubuntu feel to it. Not entirely brown or orange necesarily, but maybe a hint... In some cases green can do the trick too. <br><br>3) I think we should put suggestions on some wikipages
<br><br>4) Please put screenshot links in your mails/wikipages like bvc just did<br><br>5) Suggesting a wallpaper in the theme is a nice to touch to make a complete experience. I think all themes should do that [1]. <br><br>
6) A theme should not be included just because its cool. It should compliment the other themes nicely, providing a
coherent set of _different_ themes.<br><br></blockquote></span></div><div style="direction: ltr;">To address your list....<br>1) I think any pixmap themes should come from the other 3 community themes.</div></blockquote>
<div><br>Please plese, no pixmap themes. They may look shiny, but I believe them to be one of the core things that make people say that Gnome is unresponsive. Dapper is feeling snappy right now, let's keep it that way :-)
<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="direction: ltr;">2) earth tones? I think that should also come from the 3 community themes. Some people just want a simple, bland, gray desktop without any color, so shouldn't that be an option that is available by default? Smooth-gray from Smooth9?
<br><a href="http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/%7Ebvc/dapper-xubu/gtk/Smooth9-gray.png" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/dapper-xubu/gtk/Smooth9-gray.png</a><br>...or is the what we are trying to avoid? ...simple, bland, gray desktop without any color? Mark?
<br><br>6) Agreed. If I am understanding you correctly, it's what I wanted to see in Breezy<br><a href="http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/%7Ebvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
http://kwh.kernow-gb.com/~bvc/theme/devel/Human-Metathemes.png</a><br><br><br>The
issue with the metacity theme is not much of an issue IMO. Most of the current default gnome themes do not function correctly anyway and have bad flaws.</div></blockquote><div><br>That is not an excuse. Windows without buttons show up from time to time, and it just feels unpolished and Dapper is all about polish.
<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="direction: ltr;">The menubar problem is one the gdk>gtk=xul apps need to work out quickly. As a themer I do not worry about the bad apps. There's no reason they can not be pure gtk like the other
99.99% of apps.</div></blockquote><div><br>For theming in general I agree. However, this is long-term-support distro - if there are inconsistensies on the desktop, it has to be sorted out. If the only thing we can do in due time is to hack the theme, then I think we should accept that.
<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div style="direction: ltr;">What contrast, where in Smooth9?<br>Green Smooth9? gPerfect-flat or japan-flat?
</div></blockquote><div><br>Sorry for being unclear, it was this one: <a href="http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/34670-2.png">http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre2/34670-2.png</a> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="direction: ltr;">The Unity buttons came from the default theme for xfce (4.2?) because it was a port to gnome. I think they are fine. That said, I personally prefer to use the Gentle metacity theme which came from the same.
</div></blockquote><div><br>The Gentle metacity theme is pretty cool. However - as is also true for Blended* and Human - it's a tad on the slow side, all taking over 20 ms to render on my box (use metacity-theme-viewer to benchmark). Generally metacity sucks at gradients as far as my research goes.
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