<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffcc" text="#000000"> Étienne Bersac wrote: <blockquote cite="midDA40F243-9C81-4A4E-B144-03CCD5FD567F@laposte.net" type="cite">100% agree. I even suggest to use exactly the same look for both scrollbar and slider handles. Mark, you did not clearly said if you prefer orange or caramel. Please precise this point. </blockquote> I think the orange looks great on many widgets. In general, widgets are not on-screen all the time. You see them when something is happening or when you need to make a decision about something. And as a result, they can be quite bold without tiring the eyes. So, I like the orange checkboxes, sliders and radiobuttons. While you say they are not glassy enough, I don't know how you would work the glass effect into them, given their small size. We decided not to put orange on the scrollbars, because those are "long term widgets", they are often permanently on the screen. We put orange in the mouseover effect because (a) that's short-term and (b) that's when you are USING the widget and want to make decisions about it, so it fits nicely into the framework I described above, of using bold colors when something is in active use. On the progress bar, I also like the glass effect, because the bar is large enough that you really get the benefit of the effect. We did try to make the scrollbars glassy, but they did not work out too well. So, in short, I like the orange as long as it is used carefully. I prefer this to the older chocolate widget theme, because its more distinctive and fits nicely with the new icon theme. Mark </body> </html>