<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffcc" text="#000000"> Pascal Klein wrote: <blockquote cite="mid20060302202557.3d59f33d.4pascal@tpg.com.au" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Sorry if I was somewhat blunt. I feel that the process isn't moving along as fast as I would like it to and I'm trying to stick a blame to something.</pre> </blockquote> Stick it on your own doorstep, then. The art team needs leadership and organisation. This is our fourth release, so there has been plenty of time for that organisation to emerge organically. In Dunedin, you and I discussed this, and you promised to step up and move things forward. "Processes" don't move forward. People make them move forward. It takes effort to create an organised environment for community work to happen. Rather than looking for a place to put blame because things have not happened exactly the way you want it to, you might consider actually making them happen. I'm being blunt. Very. I really want a strong community art team but I absolutely know it will not happen unless someone steps up to lead and organise that team. Until that point, we will have lots of missed opportunities. The door is open for anybody with savvy, energy, and leadership to step through. <blockquote cite="mid20060302202557.3d59f33d.4pascal@tpg.com.au" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> I think in more correct terms, I meant to say I would have liked a call for this sort of a job and it pushed (ie. "Hey Dapper really needs an icon set"). Andy Fitzsimon's was definitely on the right track, personally. </pre> </blockquote> That call went out two releases ago. We've provided funding to Andy, over the course of a long time, and Andy has made good progress. However, we thought it worth trying a different angle, and I'm pleased with the results. There is room for Etiquette in Ubuntu as well, and perhaps one day it can become the default. Andy cant work alone. If that's to be a community effort, again, it will take leadership to gather a team around him. <blockquote cite="mid20060302202557.3d59f33d.4pascal@tpg.com.au" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> The folder icons for NFS, SMB, SSH and icons of that nature, the rounded rectangular background for the text seems too similar in colour to the folder which make it hard to distinguish from the rest of the icon, especially the folder part. :) </pre> </blockquote> OK, good feedback that. <blockquote cite="mid20060302202557.3d59f33d.4pascal@tpg.com.au" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Yes, those theme packages are definitely on the checklist. I am hoping to try to allocate a theme to a group of people, so for example 2 or 3 people could work on one theme while another group works on another theme. How does this sound? </pre> </blockquote> Sounds excellent. It would be great if there was a single package that could be installed which had 5 community-contributed theme candidates. We can then review them, provide feedback, and ultimately select a very few of the best ones, if they are high quality and complete, for inclusion in the distribution release. Mark </body> </html>