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br>>=3B Message: 9<br>>=3B Date: Fri=2C 15 Oct 2010 10:26:16 +0200<br>&=
gt=3B From: Thorsten Wilms <=3Bt_w_ at freenet.de>=3B<br>>=3B Subject: R=
e: [ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens)<br>>=3B To: ubuntu-a=
rt at lists.ubuntu.com<br>>=3B Message-ID: <=3B1287131176.1623.22.camel at ch=
arly>=3B<br>>=3B Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"UTF-8"<br>>=
=3B <br>>=3B On Thu=2C 2010-10-14 at 20:25 -0400=2C John Baer wrote:<br>&=
gt=3B <br>>=3B >=3B I like what I see with ccHost and there may be expe=
rtise ( Bryce? ) to<br>>=3B >=3B help mold it into a useful tool. <br>&=
gt=3B >=3B <br>>=3B >=3B The openclipart site looked good ( http://ww=
w.openclipart.org/ ).<br>>=3B <br>>=3B Personally=2C I would avoid anyt=
hing based on PHP. It's amazing what<br>>=3B people build with that poorl=
y designed language=2C but it still doesn't<br>>=3B make it look like a g=
od choice.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B >=3B 1. Will Canonical host it=
? If not=2C then who?<br>>=3B <br>>=3B I would not count on Canonical. =
Especially not on any buy-in prior to us<br>>=3B having something in our =
hands. I think there's a "words are cheap=2C see<br>>=3B who actually del=
ivers" at work=2C combined with everyone being busy enough<br>>=3B alread=
y.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B After making sure we will tackle the right problem=
=2C the primary concern<br>>=3B on the technical side should be cutting d=
own the required development<br>>=3B effort. Not at the cost of justified=
features=2C but by starting with an<br>>=3B informed choice of language =
and framework. Even if that makes hosting<br>>=3B more difficult/expensiv=
e=2C as developer time is very precious.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B We could try =
to collect donations for hosting=2C once there is something<br>>=3B to sh=
ow.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B >=3B 2. What does Canonical plan to d=
o with the current Wiki and when.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B There's a theme upda=
te in the pipeline=2C but AFAIK that's all they plan<br>>=3B to change re=
garding the wiki.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B What all the other teams and Canonic=
al want to use for their<br>>=3B collaborative documentation needs is up =
to them.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B What I have in mind will be for this team and=
anyone else who wants to<br>>=3B work on design/artwork in the FLOSS rea=
lm in a structured way. Not tying<br>>=3B it to Ubuntu will only make it =
more valuable=2C as GNOME=2C application<br>>=3B projects and even other =
distributions could use it=2C too.<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B -- <br>&=
gt=3B Thorsten Wilms<br>>=3B <br>>=3B thorwil's design for free softwar=
e:<br>>=3B http://thorwil.wordpress.com/<br>>=3B <br>>=3B <br>>=3B =
<br>>=3B <br>>=3B ------------------------------<br>>=3B <br>>=3B M=
essage: 10<br>>=3B Date: Fri=2C 15 Oct 2010 05:34:18 -0300<br>>=3B From=
: marco bernich <=3Bmarcobernich at gmail.com>=3B<br>>=3B Subject: Re: [=
ubuntu-art] Improving What We Do! (Martin Owens)<br>>=3B To: Discussion o=
n Ubuntu artwork <=3Bubuntu-art at lists.ubuntu.com>=3B<br>>=3B Message-=
ID:<br>>=3B <=3BAANLkTinpd8OL8Mfz=3DzWvRVU7LNK8e3mh+2WPwM0nYMOa at mail.g=
mail.com>=3B<br>>=3B Content-Type: text/plain=3B charset=3D"iso-8859-1"=
<br>>=3B <br>>=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B<br>>=3B >=3B Personally=
=2C I would avoid anything based on PHP. It's amazing what<br>>=3B >=3B=
people build with that poorly designed language=2C but it still doesn't<br=
>>=3B >=3B make it look like a god choice.<br>>=3B >=3B<br>>=3B <=
br>>=3B What language would you like? i like python!<br>>=3B ---------=
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