[ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

Cory K. coryisatm at gmail.com
Tue Jun 30 21:40:22 BST 2009

Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:31:00 Cory K. wrote:
>> Andrew SB wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K.<coryisatm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to
>>>> REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about
>>>> it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P
>>> Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will
>>> get accepted.
>>> * License Review:
>>>   - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg
>>> metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0
>>>   - Which is right?
>>>   - Are NC license "non-free"?
>>>   - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and
>>> debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright.
>>> I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered
>>> "non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's
>>> acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not.
>>> >From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ:
>>> (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html)
>>> "Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"?
>>> A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for
>>> their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in
>>> Debian without checking its license."
>>> Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my
>>> inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to
>>> roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to
>>> redistribute anything in Universe with no problem.
>> The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's
>> a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed:
>> http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4
> You need to at least continue the copyright that Jakub expresses for the 
> purposes he expressed it (ie, don't remove any of the copyright notices which 
> attribute his work to him).

I don't use any direct work from him. Only the idea. We should give him
a shout out anyway.

Any metadata in the SVGs I added because I thought it would be fun to
use. Turns out, nobody cared.

> If there are oxygen icons or parts of oxygen icons 
> being used (or even if there is a very strong similarity in design or style) 
> you should include the names of the authors in the AUTHORS file as well as 
> attributing the correct licence.
> It seems to me, just by reading this and not getting into it very deep that 
> you do not need to include the oxygen list (and if it turned out that you did, 
> I am sure I would ask nicely first :p)

I think I mention the team. Kenneth, if you could, please look through
the packaging branch and see if things fit your idea of how they should
be. Credit and what not.

>> Jakub's build system was used but there's no "copyright" there I know
>> of. I'm just giving attribution/props. If the Oxygen team should be in
>> the debian/copyright then go ahead. I'm sure Ken can chime in. In the
>> end, no Oxygen will be used. That's the plan. It was/is simply to be
>> used as inspiration.
> Well, Jakub still has the copyright on the code he wrote for the build system.

Actually he did his in ruby and ours is python. Ours is based on
something someone just threw up at some point. I'll look around to see
if I can track it down again but our script has come so far Im unsure
what's from the original.

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