[ubuntu-art] Concepts outside the scope of theming

[Smartboy]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_ at freenet.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> We have this new page in Incoming/Karmic:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/UserInteraction
>
> This is all outside of the scope of theming and artwork in that it would
> require rather deep technical changes. This means that even if
> developers would run with it, it would be very unlikely to be ready for
> Karmic. Experience suggests that nobody will do anything with it.
>
> I suggest we keep concepts of this kind outside of the current cycle's
> Incoming directory.
>
> Should we outright discourage work of this kind? I think no, maybe
> someday we will see something game-changing :)
>
> So I propose to create Incoming/Concepts for this page and similar to
> follow.
>
>
> dael99: Are you reading?
>
> Regarding a single panel, this has be left to the people at Canonical. I
> doubt anyone can offer a new argument here.
>
> Regarding mixing titlebar and menubar, this idea comes up again and
> again. Could work in some cases, but you have to deal with long
> filenames in window titles  and also long menus, so it should be one or
> 2 bars depending on the space required/offered.
>
> A short description and 1 or 2 mockups has never been enough to make
> this happen.
>
>
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> Thorsten Wilms
>
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If we were to do the titlebar thing, it would require forking both GTK
and Metacity, neither of which should we fork before their respective
major releases get out of the way (Metacity in GNOME 3.0, and GTK
3.0). It would actually probably require us to modify apps themselves,
not metacity, as the apps have to provide their own buttons for a
window border. I think that this would be virtually impossible with
GTK at the moment, even with modification.

Smartboy