[ubuntu-art] Mark has Thrown Down the Gauntlet!

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Ashton <cogneato at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Julian Oliver <julian at selectparks.net>
> wrote:
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>> put simply, colour should be used primarily to the ends of improving
>> usability in a desktop, not merely to make it 'distinct' (an empty and
>> vain project when taken on its own..). the desperate and abstract
>> attachment to brown is really starting to show it's age. this is
>> something people other than those of us on this list are perfectly
>> willing to admit..
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> I haven't seen one color substitute that solves the problem. People try to
> use orange, and then the entire system becomes orange. There is no subtlety.
> No color use, just color replacements. I don't want a wallpaper that is
> completely brown, but I can use a wallpaper that has some brown in it.
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> I myself like the red color in the Ubuntu logo, but that doesn't mean I want
> to see the entire desktop done in that red. I think something nice could be
> made by pulling and focusing on any one color in to some design. Even brown
> or orange. I just haven't seen it yet. It has been more like buckets of
> color combined with a paint roller to change a room, instead of using a fine
> brush to create a few <insert color here> elements on a canvas. It isn't
> like the color brown is avoided by all designers in the world. There are
> plenty of references out there to find.
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>> we, the designers and/or art testers, haven't yet proven that brown was
>> any more than than as a thinly veiled attempt to be distinct within a
>> world of blue and brushed-metal desktops.
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> I always saw that as the challenge. Maybe it is too big of a challenge for a
> community maintained design project, but I'm sure it could be done.
>
> I think Cory's comment regarding individual teams could be explored in a
> more structured manner. Since there is no official team, and the guidelines
> come off as loosely orientated as the mock ups, then why not have a wiki
> that reflects this? Instead of (to borrow a term) design-by-amoeba, let
> like-minded people clump together in pockets, define their own guidelines,
> and then show what they've got. There are obviously people who like Kith,
> orange, the lack of animals, etc...they should get together under one wiki
> heading and do it, without trying to get approval from the entire community.
> Because that will never happen. It would be more like, "Here is our team,
> here are our guidelines. We are trying to achieve THIS look and feel. We
> hate brown and avoid using it. We hope you like our show." Just OWN it. If
> it flies, it flies. The ml wastes its time arguing about things like colors
> vs colors.
>
> Well well well. While writing this I have seen Who's response and link to
> Cory's past convo about sub-teams. This is exactly what I am getting at. It
> seems no ideas are original, eh?
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> I realize nothing prevents people from forming their own teams, but if it
> were encouraged and there were visible splits at the wiki instead of a
> hodge-podge of everyone's work all sprinkled here and there, ultimately
> hoping to be grabbed by one person who may or may not pass it on to another
> Mark...well you see where I'm going.
>
> Regardless, I am more inclined to listen to the observations of people like
> Cory, Who, etc... who have been around the block so to speak, and have
> survived through years of watching how things have gone down.
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> Salane, you were in a chat with Mark, came back to the list like gangbusters
> and tried to get things organized. It is a valiant effort but I think it
> starts from too broad a perspective. That energy would be better spent
> working with a team of people who agree with your general take on The State
> of Things. In addition, the experience just isn't there (with the history of
> the art team at Ubuntu) and I, also a new-comer, sense a lot of eye-rolling.
> Well, hey. I'll just speak for myself: My eyes roll a lot.
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> Ashton
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Yeah I have done so. I have put together a few people to work on a
theme. Starting this weekend I want to begin in force. We will take in
everything from all perspectives and hopefully deliver an awesome
theme.

I really dont care how long people have been here so much; it seems
like this Art Team is incredibly unorganized and has never done
anything to the point of redesigning everything. Our icons were
boughtl the font comes from upstream; and the theme is lackluster.

I hope no one is offended.


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Salane Ashcraft
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