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[sylvain marc]

I agree whit you. You've got good ideas & good propositions
we have to do someting different of windows, & better !
(sorry for my bad english)


2008/2/10, Álvaro Medina Ballester <xlasttrainhomex at gmail.com>:
>
> El 10/02/2008, a las 14:45, Jan Niklas Hasse escribió:
>
> > Anyway, instead of showing me the real names of the apps, do you
> > have any _solid_ opinion or any critic point to my idea?
> >
> > Your idea is that applications are still running when i close their
> > window? And that they will appear in an app selector? Well, the idea
> > is not bad, but the tray does this already. When i close my app i
> > can reopen it by clicking the tray icon. My critic point is: Instead
> > of developing an app selector, we should drop the idea of the tray
> > as a notification area and improve it instead.
> >
> > I mean, music apps go to "tray" in Linux... and what? I was saying
> > that in my opinion this is not the right place to keep open apps.
> >
> > Why? I think it's a good place because a small icon doesn't take
> > much place and i can perform actions like changing settings in the
> > context menu of the icon.
>
> I'm glad to hear your opinion!
>
> Well, we have some points in common. We believe that the "pipe" I
> described is a good way to manage applications and windows, but we're
> not agree in one thing, where those open apps should be represented on
> the desktop.
>
> I far prefer not putting open apps in the system tray because I think
> that the tray should be used for things that are always open (clock,
> volume manager or volume applet, network manager, etc.). So I think
> that we're mixing two things in the same place.
>
> In addition, I think that putting a lot of small icons would not be
> the best way to manage the open apps because those apps are the main
> use of the desktop. For example, when I'm doing some university stuff
> I have scribes open and the terminal to do gcc's and make's, so I
> think that the best way to manage those open apps is keeping them
> separately from another things like clock applet that you're not using
> constantly. And if you have bigger icons that makes easier to
> distinguish what do you want to select.
>
> Changing the settings in the context menu of the icon is a very good
> idea. That can be implemented also in an app selector. This is what I
> like to call the power of simplicity.
>
> When I said that about Windows culture I didn't explained myself very
> well. In my university, some software engineering teachers (not some,
> all) believe that Windows way to do things with the computer is the
> good one just because "everybody uses it", they don't know another
> ways to work with the desktop and so they've learned to work in a
> Windows way so if they have another better options they don't consider
> them because they have learned Windows way and they don't want to
> think further.
>
> I remember discussing how bad is Windows external devices manager with
> my teacher. If you plug 3 or 4 devices you can't know which is the usb
> pen, which is the media player, etc. But in gnome's desktop, every
> device is on the desktop so you can manage them very easily. My
> teacher still believes that Windows does that better. I think that
> this is what we need to avoid.
>
> Thank you for considering my ideas again.
>
>
> Cheers.
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