[ubuntu-art] Dust-Based theme
David
thecookieofdoom at gmail.com
Wed Aug 20 15:47:04 BST 2008
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> It is professional, yet modern looking, yet doesn't give the vibe that
>>> we were copying anyone else. Can this be used with Metacity? If so, we
>>> have a winner. :)
>>>
>>> Smartboy
>>
>> To me it is clone of Mac's interface with darker colors. So we are
>> coping somebody here. One more thing. I think that this is only a mockup
>> because with current programs (metacity, emerald) it is near impossible
>> to make a highlight that is in the title and continues in the menubar.
>> I've wanted to do this in New Wave but with no success.
>>
>> That is just personal opinion. If some better software has appeared
>> meanwhile then I'll be very happy to see this as default in Ubuntu.
>>
>>
>> Anton
>
> But in this case, I think the continuing highlight can be killed
> without too much of a loss; the theme generally looks the same with or
> without a title bar already. Even New Wave looks all right without the
> shadow effect, as it's a convenient way to divide two kinds of
> windows. A nice fix to the gradient there would be 'just' making it
> sharper, doing the whole curve with the window title bar and having
> the menu bar a solid colour. It is a subtle enough gradient that the
> change may work fine.
>
> For now a theme like New Wave is not going to work perfectly in action
> because of what you mention. There are rumblings about of the Metacity
> team devising a new, less bizarre way for doing window themes with two
> proposed possibilities being "leave it to GTK" and "use SVGs" -- the
> first one is quite exciting.
> There is the small border around the title and menu. It should
> probably be scrapped. We cannot assume all menu bars to be at the tops
> of windows, and without that being the case the lines look bizarre.
>
> The little window glow of Kin continues to please me. Of course,
> impossible without Emerald, and one cannot stress enough how futile
> Emerald is. Maybe a dark inner border with a shiny outer border in
> Metacity would give a close enough effect.
>
> I am a bit hesitant about people jumping on the Firefox end of that
> mockup. As is well known, Firefox uses its own theme engine. (Although
> FF 3 tries valiantly to look like GTK). This mockup should really be
> of a properly GTK-powered program, such as the About Me program or of
> Nautilus. Also as ismentioned somewhere, the author says that the
> Firefox mockup is kind of a different thought from the rest of the
> Dust theme. In contrast to the other stuff, it is busy and fiddly.
>
> Again for the "looks like Mac" argument, please look at these
> screenshots and find One Thing that actually, truthfully looks like it
> is yanked from MacOS aside from "has buttons":
> http://media.arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.media/finder-sidebar.png
> http://www.apertureprofessional.com/articleimages/auto_upload/7e97c089dfa50b5f1f316b7d91d3ae60/iphoto08.jpeg
>
> Bye,
> -Dylan
>
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Even if it does mildly resemble Mac OSX... the secret to originality
is knowing where to hide your sources. :P Of course, we're kind of
running out of time to start building something from a mockup...
again. Not that it's a bad mockup, I like it, it would just have to be
built quickly.
--
David Mikucki
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