[ubuntu-art] Matte for the next release?
sam7.ubuntu at gmail.com
Thu Nov 22 23:02:40 GMT 2007
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AND I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO MAKE A MIX OF THE THEMES LIKE I
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2007/11/22, Who <mailforwho at googlemail.com>:
> Hi all,
> Seeing as Kenneth says that this is the time to suggest ideas to be
> taken in to account when the final artwork direction is decided I
> would like to start some discussion of the merits of using a matte
> theme (with small glossy elements/highlights) for the next release of
> I'd love anyone who has ideas on why this is a good or bad idea to
> chime in. I'll list a few of my own to get discussion started
> I'm suggesting it, so I'll list why I think it's a good idea to go mainly
> Problems with Glossyness:
> 1. It's been DONE (by Ubuntu and by everyone else)
> --- Shiny themes have been done and are everywhere now. Ubuntu's
> design wants to STAND OUT, and we want to make a new chapter in
> Ubuntu's design! OsX used to be king of gloss, but in Leopard we see
> Apple shifting away from it (but admittedly not quite being able to
> let go).
> 2. It's DISTRACTING
> --- Shinnyness is _distracting_ from the what you are working on.
> GNOME is designed not to get in your way while you do your work, but
> shinny things that cry out for your attention minimise it's
> effectiveness in doing this
> 3. It's not (very) TANGO Compliant
> --- Tango guidelines ask only for things that are glossy in real life
> to be glossy. Given that more and more applications are adopting Tango
> icons we are giving ourselves a much larger job if we create a theme
> that Tango doesn't fit in to, because for total consistency we have to
> re-theme all the applications.
> 4. It feels LESS REALISTIC
> --- As Tango guidelines point out, real surfaces are rarely glossy...
> Using icons that represent real objects helps people intuitively use
> applications and understand icons, adding gloss somewhat detracts from
> this. It leads to 'cartoon' design in many cases.
> Nice things about matte themes
> 1. They can be SOFTER
> --- contrast in a matte theme can be lower, so the whole set of
> widgets is easier to look at ('easier on the eyes'). It makes the
> interface feel more human, to me...
> 2. BROWN and Matte > Brown and glossy
> --- One of the contradictions in Ubuntu UI policy seems to be the
> difficulty of brown vs orange. One of the reasons we have this is
> becasue brown does not look good glossy, and orange does! If Ubuntu is
> going to stay brown using a matte theme allows the designers more
> scope and allows for greater colour consistency. Brown isn't a very
> glossy colour
> 3. Textures are often matte
> -- Elephants, for example ;)
> There are some really original ones around (yes, so I'm sure there are
> orignal glossy ones around too, please post them if you find them :)
> After some trawling, here we go
> Just the _buttons_ on this theme are beautiful:
> Someone called 'Lyrae' has a whole host of similar (awesome and
> original) matte/square themes:
> This 'wooden' is kind cool
> So is the Clearlooks theme from Breezy
> Nodoka, is a nice theme engine to use
> So, let's have a discussion about it - what do people think?
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