installing ubuntu with speakup

[David]

Thanks for the info, it's been a while since I was last at an in-person
meeting, so that might not be a bad idea, except for lugging all the
equipment along

However, from your description it does not sound like it is an easily
repeatable process, so I will have to seriously consider looking into
switching the distro to, say, Debian, or something that would hopefully work
'out of the box'

--David

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com> 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 5:44 PM
To: David <bearsfo at yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
<dorozhinsky at ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup

Some distributions have a section where you get to choose what kernel and
version of kernel you want to install.  If ubuntu hasn't got generic kernel
available you can't do it with ubuntu until after installation and doing
that isn't a trivial process either  It's a matter of downloading the kernel
image file then installing it over the kernel ubuntu put on your disk.  Best
done by linux experts at the linux user's group install linux club day
meeting.



Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in defense
of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)

.

On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:

>
> How do one use the generic kernel while installing?  I just pop the 
> disk in, boot, and follow the questions [well, someone is reading them 
> to me]
>
> --David
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 2:00 PM
> To: David <bearsfo at yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> <dorozhinsky at ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
>
> If you had the option to use generic kernel when doing a reinstall the 
> speakup modules are in that kernel.  How you install missing modules 
> is possible if on your disk in source code but you'll have to build 
> them correctly first.  If you had mlocate package installed and had 
> done updatedb first then you could do locate speakup_soft and find if 
> you have that module in source code on your disk.  Alternatively 
> ubuntu in its customizations could have blacklisted all of the speakup 
> modules.  They would be on the disk and would have first to be removed 
> from the blacklist then built and then installed.  It's a complicated
process, just the way ubuntu wants it.
>
>
>
> Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in 
> defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
>
> .
>
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
>
> >
> > OK, then I guess adding the module manually myself, if that is possible?
> >
> > --David
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 1:17 PM
> > To: David <bearsfo at yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > <dorozhinsky at ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> >
> > Apparently, ubuntu rolled its custom kernel and excluded all of the 
> > speakup modules.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in 
> > defense of liberty:
> >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> >
> > .
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Feb 2023, David wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks, I can always do another clean install, but it doesn't 
> > > appear the speakup module is there after the install, at least I 
> > > am unable to find it in the module list, and modprobe doesn't 
> > > seems to be able to find it either
> > >
> > > From the output it appears espeakup is also looking for it and 
> > > wasn't able to, thus asking if someone has step-by-step 
> > > instructions to make sure I didn't missed anything
> > >
> > > Thanks again ?
> > >
> > > --David
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2023 12:37 PM
> > > To: David <bearsfo at yahoo.com>; 'Volodymyr Dorozhinsky'
> > > <dorozhinsky at ukr.net>; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > > Subject: RE: installing ubuntu with speakup
> > >
> > > It may be time to install fenrirscreenreader.  That or replace 
> > > ubuntu with
> > another distribution.
> > > You can get much cleaner output by appending 2>&1|tee -a 
> > > espeak.log to
> > each command then read down through espeak.log once you finish 
> > getting all of these failures.  The ansi codes get stripped out that
way.
> > >
> > >
> > > Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com>
> > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> > >  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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