gnome shell versus mate

[B. Henry]

Honestly, the current state of the classicmenu-indicator is much less helpful than it could be in my opinion. 
There are too many categories, and a large percentage of items appear in multiple sub-menus. 
I mean, really, sundry and other? 
This is too bad as this was a nicer tool back when I first used it when gnoe shell was still pretty new. 
I've got an alternative that hopefully will be packaged for Ubuntu this weekend that is rather more efficient I think, will let you know about it, or 
write me off list and I'll send you a tarball that can be installed with a couple of commands, i.e. extracting the files and running the installer.



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  Rob Whyte wrote:
Sat, Apr 02, 2016 at 08:26:02AM +1100

> Have you tried installing classicmenu-indicator?
> 
> On 02/04/16 08:18, Don Raikes wrote:
> > I am just used to the old menu-driven approach and whenever I try to do something I can't find it in gnome.
> >
> > I am working on a security-based debian derivative named kalilinux, and I don't know all the tools so it would be helpful to have the menus to guide me into knowing the various tools and their general functions.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Whyte [mailto:fudge at thefudge.net] 
> > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 12:43 PM
> > To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Re: gnome shell versus mate
> >
> > Hi,
> > What frustrates you about Gnome Don?
> > cheers
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On 02/04/16 03:30, Don Raikes wrote:
> >> I have been frustrated with gnome-shell for a while now and want to go back to mate.
> >> I downloaded the ubuntu-mate-15.10 desktop iso and have tried installing it in a vmware virtual machine, but once it is installed I can't get sound working on it at all.
> >>
> >> I tried with a variety of configurations over the last couple of days but nothing seems to work.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: kendell clark [mailto:coffeekingms at gmail.com] 
> >> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2016 6:41 AM
> >> To: Daniel Crone; ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> >> Subject: Re: gnome shell versus mate
> >>
> >> hi
> >> Being objective is a little difficult, since I've switched back to mate, but i'll give it a shot. Hear goes.
> >> Gnome is great if you don't want to have a customized panel with different applets on it. The gnome panel is set and can't be changed easily. It requires an extension or gsettings keys to do so.
> >>
> >> As a resultt, once you learn where everything is it won't ever change.
> >> This is an advantage if you just want to run your apps and not have to go looking for stuff on the panel. On the other hand, gnome has taken out a lot of functionality that mate, being a fork of gnome 2 before all this stuff was removed, has. In gnome, you can't select a different sound theme than the default except by using gsettings.
> >>
> >> You can't create your own desktop icons, and removing a drive through the gui is buried in nautilus. Whether you care about this stuff mostly depends on what you do with your computer. Mate is much lighter on resources, which won't matter unless you have a computer that gnome doesn't run well on. On the other hand, mate's panels can be very odd with orca, sometimes getting stuck and requiring a reset of orca or the panel to fix things.
> >>
> >> Mate is a lot more configurable, but has the disadvantage of not being able to run apps as root accessibly. At least for now. This is being worked on right now and should be fixed shortly. Mate has a nice menu system, with apps organized into categories. Sound and video, office, etc. You can't search for apps like you can in gnome, to find them you have to use the menus or add them to the desktop.
> >>
> >> You can of course create keyboard shortcuts to launch them and so on. I can't tell you which is better because each one is preferred by different people. But mate tends to be better on computers that don't have a lot of power or memory. Gnome has more desktop effects and can search, but has a lot of the more advanced functionality removed. It's really up to you, in the end.
> >> Thanks
> >> Kendell Clark
> >>
> >>
> >> Daniel Crone wrote:
> >>> Hello.  I am curious about the advantages of gnome shell over mate, or vice versa.
> >>> What do you think?
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