Here it is...Ubuntu Phone

[Nolan Darilek]

First, please confirm which versions of Firefox and Orca I am using. 
Since you know so much about my environment, I look forward to your 
abilities in this regard.

Second, please justify why the fact that a given choice works for you is 
a good reason why that choice must be for everyone. I at no point said 
that you must use Windows or criticized your choices, so perhaps it 
would be wise not to criticize mine, or to criticize me when I claim 
that Windows suits my needs better.

If you're happy with what you have now, fine. Be happy with it. But do 
step aside when others aren't and try to make things better. We're not 
trying to put *you* down or call *you* out, after all.


On 01/07/2013 02:14 PM, Kyle wrote:
> I do lots of things with my computer using Linux. Granted, my primary 
> distro is Arch Linux rather than Ubuntu, so I get all the latest stuff 
> as soon as it's released, but I don't use Windows, except the very 
> rare times when I need to print something, because I have yet to 
> purchase a good printer, at which times I use a left-over XP install 
> on a 10-year-old box. I browse many websites on my Linux box using 
> Orca and Firefox, and I use no other browser, not even 
> Chrome+ChromeVox. I have nothing against trying different things, but 
> I tend to stick with what works, and Firefox+Orca works quite well 
> here. I have yet to find a website that is impossible to navigate, 
> with the exception of Flash content, which is more miss than hit on 
> any browser in any OS. Yes, the times I still have to use Windows for 
> printing, I find NVDA to be quite usable, but if making Firefox+Orca 
> more usable for others means converting to a clunky virtual buffer 
> system that doesn't handle dynamic content well, and cludgy 
> work-arounds like lists of links, then I'll hold off on the downgr ... 
> I mean upgrade, thank you very much.
>
> Yes, Firefox and the way Orca works with it could be improved, and 
> this is happening. But saying that you'd rather use Windows for web 
> browsing because you haven't even tried the latest versions of either 
> Orca or Firefox is utterly ridiculous. So before spouting and spitting 
> about how accessibility needs to improve, first start by trying the 
> latest versions of things, so that you can file more informed bug 
> reports based on the newest, dare I say shiniest, technology.
> ~Kyle
> http://kyle.tk/