New to ubuntu - some problems/questions

José Vilmar Estácio de Souza vilmar at informal.com.br
Thu Nov 22 18:19:39 UTC 2012


Hi Daniel.
If you installed ubuntu using orca, unity 2d is configured by default.
In the login screen you can change to unity or to gnome-shell, but you 
need to install gnome-shell.



On 11/21/2012 09:21 PM, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:36:43AM -0200, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
>> Hi Daniel,
>
> Hi José,
>
>> What version of ubuntu are you running?
>
> 12.10
>
>> Are you running unity 2d or unity 3d?
>
> Not sure, is there a method to check?
> I just installed straight from the livecd as of last night, so what
> would that likely mean?
>>
>
>>> 1. How do I see the list of all my applications? I press the windows key
>>> and then attempt to arrow around, but this does not work. I read that
>>> this is the method to view the entire application list with unity...
>>> So how to do this with orca?
>>
>> The win key or the alt+f1 is used to see the list of the prefered
>> applications or the running applications.
>> I never found how to se all applications using unity 2d.
>
> Yes I'm finding the same can find common application, but not all. Oh
> well that's not a huge problem for me atm.
>
>>
>>> Also, on a bit of a side note, what is a better choice from an
>>> accessibility point of view, gnome-shell or unity? Is there some reason
>>> why unity is the default on ubuntu?
>>
>> Personally I prefer gnome-shell, but canonical decided to adopt
>> unity as the default.
>
> I suppose I'll try gnome-shell on ubuntu then I can decide which one to
> go with easily.
> I'm use to gnome-shell so maybe that's why I'm having some bad luck with
> unity.
>>> 2. In Some applications are not working quite right. In Libreoffice calc
>>> when I use the arrow keys to navigate the spread sheet I do not get any
>>> spoken feedback from orca.
>>> Also in both writer and calc (possibly other apps, but that's all I've
>>> tested so far) I can not access the menu bar by using alt or alt+f.
>>> Is there a solution to this one?
>> Did you try the f10 key to access the menu bar?
>
> Does not work. If I press alt by itself I hear somethin hud or hub.
> Using arrows does not do anything here though.
> I'll try gnome-shell though and hopefully this problem might disappear.
>
>>
>>> 3. I've just installed emacspeak from source on ubuntu, using
>>> espeak. When I run emacspeak with espeak I experience regular crashes on
>>> average one every few minutes.
>>> Obviously this is quite annoying, so I was hoping there might be a fix
>>> around.
>>> I'm also experiencing almost identical problem on debian, but my best
>>> solution so far is to revert back to alsa. Is this also the best
>>> solution for ubuntu?
>> I can not say about this topic, but I think that it is not so easy
>> revert to alsa in ubuntu.
>
> Yes, your probably right.
>
>>
>>> I'm presuming this will also be an issue when I get around to installing
>>> speakup, as it was on debian also.
>>>
>>> 4. My final problem: I'm attempting to build and install speakup as
>>> kernel modules.
>>> First I tried installing module-assistant and doing the following as
>>> root:
>>> m-a prepare
>>> m-a a-i speakup
>>>
>>> The build process failed though. Is my best option for now to build the
>>> modules from source out of git?
>>>
>> you do not need build speakup in ubuntu because there is  a package.
>> sudo apt-get install speakup espeakup
>
> Thanks for clarifying made it a lot easier!:)
>> The problem is that you can not use speakup and the gui environment
>> using the same login.
>> What I do in general is to login in the console as root and su - my
>> real login.
>
> Hmm, this is very interesting. Do we know why yet? Because would
> speakup/espeakup be running as root anyway?
> Maybe this is a pulseaudio issue again similar to what I found on
> debian, but then again it also seems quite different.
> I shall keep investigating anyway.
>
>>> I hope this can help in some way.
>
> It is very helpful, thank you very much.
>
> Daniel
>

-- 
{}S José Vilmar Estácio de Souza



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