[Off Topic] sound car

[mk360]

    First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse 
better :).

    I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens... 
The model is realtek ALC 880.

    Thanks again.
    mk.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phill Whiteside" <phillw at phillw.net>
To: "mk360" <mk.seventhson at gmail.com>
Cc: <Ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car


> Hi mk360,
>
> I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what 
> was
> said:
>
> (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound
> cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse.
> (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa
> *cwillu cwillu_at_work *
> (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as
> per the instructions and pulse will see it ?
> (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version 
> of
> alsa that's already included isn't working?
> (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work
> (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive -
> (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my 
> ubuntu
> becouse it was
> (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver
> from the manufacturer,
> (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file 
> all
> instructions are
> (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the 
> new
> ubuntu systems
> (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
> (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced
> (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do
> different things
> (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with
> ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ?
> (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is 
> what
> talks to applications
> (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already
> checked alsamixer levels?
> (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual
> installation looks quite involed !!
> (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa 
> that
> doesn't sound good..
> (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the
> volume was too low
> (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer
> levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually
> installing it ?
> (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should 
> be
> just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and 
> the
> sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue. 
> If
> it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed
> properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be)
> rather than just applying a workaround
> (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the
> bugs don't actually get fixed
> (16:44:23) phillw: .
> (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p
> (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be
> back ;-)
>
> Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have
> another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 <mk.seventhson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>    Hi,
>>
>>    I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it 
>> was
>> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the
>> manufacturer,
>> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions 
>> are
>> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems
>> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
>>
>>    Here is the readme file:
>> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14
>>
>> Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec
>>
>> Support Codec list:
>>
>> ====AC97 Codec=====
>>
>> ALC100,100P
>>
>> ALC200,200P
>>
>> ALC650D
>>
>> ALC650E
>>
>> ALC650F
>>
>> ALC650
>>
>> ALC655
>>
>> ALC653
>>
>> ALC658
>>
>> ALC658D
>>
>> ALC850
>>
>> ALC101
>>
>> ALC202
>>
>> ALC250
>>
>> ALC203
>>
>> ====HD Audio codec ====
>>
>> ALC260
>>
>> ALC262
>>
>> ALC267
>>
>> ALC268
>>
>> ALC259
>>
>> ALC269
>>
>> ALC270
>>
>> ALC272
>>
>> ALC275
>>
>> ALC660
>>
>> ALC660VD
>>
>> ALC661
>>
>> ALC662
>>
>> ALC663
>>
>> ALC665
>>
>> ALC670
>>
>> ALC861
>>
>> ALC861VD
>>
>> ALC880
>>
>> ALC882
>>
>> ALC883
>>
>> ALC885
>>
>> ALC888
>>
>> ALC889A
>>
>> ALC892
>>
>> Installation:
>>
>> This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org.
>>
>> For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit.
>>
>> For driver installation, please follow below steps.
>>
>> Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution)
>>
>> execute
>>
>> ./install
>>
>> Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install.
>>
>> Run commands need to add sudo at first words.
>>
>> Manual install:
>>
>> Step 1. unzip source code
>>
>> tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2
>>
>> Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
>>
>> (soundcore module, default turn on)
>>
>> Step 3. Complied source code
>>
>> a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx
>>
>> b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)<= for HDA options
>>
>> c. make
>>
>> d. make install
>>
>> e. alsaconf
>>
>> Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the
>> distribution
>>
>> (Please refer to the attached modules.conf)
>>
>>
>> snd-xxxx is the card ID.
>>
>> -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888
>>
>> --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 ---------
>>
>> snd-hda-intel
>>
>> -- AC97 controller --ALC655 ALC650 ALC250 ALC255
>>
>> --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 , SiS 7012 and NVidia----------
>>
>> snd-intel8x0
>>
>> --- Via8233 Via686a -------------------------------
>>
>> snd-via82xx
>>
>> --- ATI Chipset -------------------------------
>>
>> snd-atiixp
>>
>> Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or
>> /etc/modprobe.conf file.
>>
>> # ALSA portion
>>
>> alias char-major-116 snd
>>
>> alias snd-card-0 snd-xxxx
>>
>> # OSS/Free portion
>>
>> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>>
>> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
>>
>> # card #1
>>
>> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
>>
>> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
>>
>> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
>>
>> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
>>
>> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>>
>> Step 5. reboot your machine
>>
>> Step 6. Use the alsamixer the disable mute (All audio line default is 
>> mute)
>>
>> Must to compile and to install the ALSA library and utility. (Use 
>> automatic
>> install is already install)
>>
>> excute alsamixer
>>
>> Note: 1. The most detail information, can refer the
>> alsa-kernel/Documenttation/ALSA-Configuration.txt in the
>> azx-021705.tar.bz2.
>>
>> 2. Kernel Version must be 2.6 or later.
>>
>> 3. All mixer channels are muted by default. You must use a native
>>
>> or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate channels.
>>
>> 4. If can not compile the source code, try to rename the
>> /usr/src/linux-2.x -> /usr/src/linux.
>>
>> 5. The driver added to support the SPDIF functoin.
>>
>> 6. a. You can download the alsa-lib-1.0.x and alsa-utils-1.0.x form the
>> www.alsa-project.org, then unzip and install them.
>>
>> b. Suggest use "alsamixer" to control mixer function.
>>
>> c. Used "alsaconf" can autodetect which drive you need to install (step 
>> 4).
>>
>> 7. SUSE Distribution must install the ncurses package.
>>
>>
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