How's Karmic these days?

Dave Hunt dave.hunt2 at
Thu Oct 22 05:00:32 BST 2009

Does Speech Dispatcher crash in Karmic when a synthesizer other than  
Espeak is used?  I run Jaunty and find that Espeak will often stop  
talking when I use Speech Dispatcher.  With Flite, these crashes are  
rare.  If I use Gnome-speech with Espeak, Espeak will often interrupt  
itself but not crash, per-se.  May I suggest that either Gnome-speech  
be included or that Flite be the default voice until the troubles with  
Espeak and Karmic are addressed?



On Oct 21, 2009, at 9:19 PM, Aruni Sharma wrote:

> Hi, do we no longer have the option of using gnome-speech? although
> speech-dispatcher has been made the default, it would have been better
> if gnome-speech was also available, at least till the time
> speech-dispatcher is stable enough.
> Thanks,
> Aruni.
> On 10/22/2009 3:55 AM, Bill Cox wrote:
>> Hi, Luke.
>> Thanks for working on accessibility.  I feel really rotten about
>> complaining about the bugs without putting in effort into debugging.
>> However, my boss is all over me at the moment to get another project
>> back on schedule.  I'm sure you know what that's like.
>> However, over the next year, I promise to find some time to nail a  
>> bug
>> or two, like the crash in speech dispatcher.  In the meantime, we
>> should probably set expectations for users, and let them know it will
>> be a while before Orca is working in a stable manner in the latest
>> Ubuntu.  It's an unfortunate situation, but blind users are simply  
>> not
>> able to chip in and fix things when accessibility is broken, so it
>> will be up to the very few of us interested in accessibility who  
>> still
>> have decent vision to pull it off.
>> Best regards,
>> Bill
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Luke Yelavich<themuso at>   
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 08:46:26AM EST, Bill Cox wrote:
>>>> Sorry guys, I know there's some of you out there who actually  
>>>> work on
>>>> Ubuntu accessibility, but the current state sucks.  I certainly  
>>>> hope
>>>> Ubuntu decides at some point to make accessibility a priority.
>>> I can understand why, as a user, you feel that way. Unfortunately  
>>> I am the only one so far as I know of, actively working on  
>>> improving Ubuntu's accessibility, and while I do as much as I can  
>>> to make things work as well as they can, I have other matters that  
>>> I need to attend to, due to working for Canonical and being  
>>> responsible for other parts of the desktop as well, so I can only  
>>> do so much in the time I allocate for accessibility work.
>>> Unfortunately the speech-dispatcher crasher is at the moment,  
>>> somewhat beyond my current skills to debug, although learning  
>>> valgrind will likely help me get better with sed debugging, and  
>>> hopefully get rid of the speech-dispatcher crash.
>>> So if you really want Ubuntu's accessibility to get better, I urge  
>>> you to consider helping out in whatever way you can, even if its  
>>> only filing and triaging bugs, thats something. The more bugs that  
>>> are in a triaged state, the less work I have to do, and the more  
>>> bugs I can attempt to fix.
>>> I hope you all understand, and will do what you can to help.
>>> Regards
>>> Luke
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