Orca and KDE applications test. Users needed!!!

Willie Walker William.Walker at Sun.COM
Thu Oct 30 12:23:42 GMT 2008


Hi Terry:

KDE/Qt currently does not participate in the AT-SPI infrastructure and  
thus will be inaccessible via Orca.

Work is underway to migrate AT-SPI from CORBA to D-Bus (see  
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Accessibility/ATK/AT-SPI/AT-SPI_on_D- 
Bus).  When that is ready, the KDE/Qt work to support AT-SPI can begin.

In the meantime, your best solution for free open source accessibility  
is GNOME.

Hope this helps,

Will

On Oct 30, 2008, at 4:47 AM, Terry Jones wrote:

>
>
> ThankYou terryjones130 at msn.com
>
> Hello  My name is Terry Jones. I am a programmer who has had double  
> eye transplant surgery. I am 26. Ubuntu users a lot of them use both  
> Gnome and KDE apps side by side. My default desktop is Gnome but  
> I also use KDE as well. I have the full kde 3.5.9 desktop  
> installed. I am testing Orca in 8.04.1 LTS Hardy Heron. I need a set  
> of users to volunteer to test Orca with KDE 3.5 apps and KDE 4 Apps  
> and report back to the mailing list how Orca  worked and did not  
> work with these apps. 
>   
>  I tested the following applications. 
>  1. Konqueror (Web Browser)
>  2. Amerok(Music Player) 
>  3. Kontact (Personal Information Manager)
>   
>  In my early tests so far I found Orca was blind to KDE apps. That  
> means Orca could not preform the following tesks.
>  1. Read aloud the keyboard strokes inside a KDE app and output a  
> voice as feedback to inform the user of their input.
>  2. Could not tell the user when they closed a KDE app.
>  3. When reading a list of open apps and the apps are not minized to  
> the taskbar the KDE apps would get skipped over.
>   
> A. Please include the following in your reponse.
>  1. Name of volunteer.
>  2. Disability
>  3. The version Ubuntu/Kubuntu you are using.
>  4. The version of Gnome/KDE you are using.
>  5.  Name of the application.
>  6. What did you want Orca to do?
>  7. How Orca worked.
>  8. How Orca did not work.  
>   
> B. Sample reponse
>  1. Name of volunteer.                                  Terry Jones
>  2. Disability. Low vision
>  3. The version Ubuntu/Kubuntu you are using.  Hardy Herdy Heron  
> 8.04.1 LTS
>  4. The version of Gnome/KDE you are using.     Gnome  2.24 KDE 3.5.9
>  5. Name of the application.                           Konqueror(Web  
> Browser)
>  6. What did you want Orca to do?                  Read the current  
> web page.
>  7. How Orca worked.                                   Did not work at  
> all. 
>  8. How Orca did not work.                            Could not get  
> Orca to read a web page in Konqueror.
>   
>  Please help so we can make Ubuntu's accessibilty work for all users  
> and make the next version of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu even better.  
> Please use this mailing list to post results of your experences in  
> this effort.   
>
>  From: ubuntu-accessibility-request at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 35, Issue 21
> > To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 12:00:08 +0000
> >
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> >
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> > than "Re: Contents of Ubuntu-accessibility digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Re: New developer (Tomas Cerha)
> > 2. Problem with Orca (Alain Joly)
> > 3. about the usb creator (mike)
> > 4. Re: Problem with Orca (Hammer Attila)
> >
> >
> >  
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:36:39 +0100
> > From: Tomas Cerha <cerha at brailcom.org>
> > Subject: Re: New developer
> > To: thomaslloyd at yahoo.com
> > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Message-ID: <490777D7.8040403 at brailcom.org>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Tom Lloyd wrote:
> > > Just wanted to say Hi and to get myself known. I have been using  
> Ubuntu for=
> > > three or so years. I am a 26 year old developer from the UK  
> trained in Emb=
> > > edded / Realtime systems. As a side project I am intergrating SAPI  
> into Ubu=
> > > ntu to gives access to the MS speech engines using speech  
> dispatcher.
> >
> > Hello Tom,
> >
> > This sounds exciting. It might be an interesting option and I'd like  
> to
> > invite you to discuss this on the Speech Dispatcher mailing list,  
> since
> > similar ideas have been already touched there.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Tomas
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:32:30 +0100 (CET)
> > From: Alain Joly <alain at alain-joly.net>
> > Subject: Problem with Orca
> > To: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Message-ID: <20081029.003230.41641731.alain at alain-joly.net>
> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hello all,
> > I would like first apologize if I sent a message to the wrong list.
> > I'm French and I have perhaps not understood the real subject of  
> this list.
> > Please, if I'm wrong, could you give me a mailing list where I  
> couldsubscribe ?
> > For now I will try to quickly explain my problem.
> > I'm a new Ubuntu user and also a new linux user.
> > My configuration :
> > Ubuntu version : 8.04 Hardy Heron
> > Mother board : Asustek
> > video : NVIDIA 128 Mb
> > RAM : 1.5 Gb
> > CPU : pentium 4 3.2 GHz
> >
> > My problem :
> > In general, I cannot access to the different gnome desktop utilities  
> because, when the software is launched and when the window is opened,  
> orca doesn't to speak any more.
> > For example : the window connexion (menu  
> System/Administration/window connexion)
> > Orca speaks and I can choose a menu. Then, when the window is open,  
> Orca no longer speaks. When I close the window with "ctrl-F4, Orca  
> speaks again.
> > I've tried with other desktop utilities. Sometimes I can access to a  
> window, but always with less or more difficulties.
> > I've tried to disable my braille terminal (pappenmeier) but there is  
> no change.
> > What could I do ?
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> > Alain
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:13:43 -0500 (CDT)
> > From: "mike" <kb8aey at verizon.net>
> > Subject: about the usb creator
> > To: "ubuntu" <ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Message-ID: <0K9H0038A7EUA0S0 at vms173003.mailsrvcs.net>
> >
> > Hi, I tried different things with the UsB creator in intrepid today.
> > What I found is that the system boots much faster if you use the fat  
> file system. If you use fat 32 the system takes almost twice as long  
> to boot.
> > Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:58:23 +0100
> > From: Hammer Attila <hammera at pickup.hu>
> > Subject: Re: Problem with Orca
> > To: Alain Joly <alain at alain-joly.net>
> > Cc: ubuntu-accessibility at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Message-ID: <490825AF.3030500 at pickup.hu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed
> >
> > Dear List!
> >
> > Luke, if you have a little time, possible upgrade your repository the
> > gnome-orca-stable pacgage version (2.22.3) with 2.24.1 version?
> >
> > Attila
> >
> >
> >
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