Ok, I lost a few messages so I need this info again. I have a older computer I can install on. Once this is done. What do I do to install orca. I am blind so if this has to be done with a mouse please let me know. Thanks Mike. X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0625-4, 06/21/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean