<html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/8/22 13:25, Steve Langasek wrote: </div> <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:YgK1lI+lIvlf1jJW@homer.dodds.net"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Hi Thomas, Thanks for your summary of the issue. When I look at this matter, the first question I have is a different governance one: why does the DMB believe that it has the authority to pass its own policies removing members from the DMB? I see that the DMB has for some time been running its own elections, which seems fine as this is effectively an administrative thing; but I don't think members of the DMB have the authority to remove other members of the DMB, even for inactivity, who have been elected by the Ubuntu Developers at large. I certainly think it would be improper for the TB to pass such a policy for itself, as well. So I think any such policy for removal of inactive DMB members needs to be ratified by the TB (as the body which delegated the DMB) or, if you want to skip-level, the CC.</pre> </blockquote> With my CC hat on since I'm on the Community Council (CCing the Council as we were referenced): Unless the TB chooses to not make a decision on this and would like to escalate it for the Community Council to decide whether policy was violated, whether this needs CC ratification of activity policies, etc., I believe that the CC would likely instead bounce it back to the TB for handling, as the Developer Membership Board's direct governance is the Technical Board before it would get to the Community Council. And while I don't think there's any problem with the TB choosing to escalate it to the CC as a governance decision issue, that needs a TB agreement to escalate it to the Community Council, at which point the Community Council would be willing to handle this. (And, generally speaking, skipping the proper chain of governance and leadership is a faux pax in my eye, generally, so things need to be handled in the proper chain of escalation before skipping straight to the Community Council (the only exception at the moment being LoCo stuff since the LoCo council is unstaffed, making the Community Council the next one to handle LoCo disputes)) <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:YgK1lI+lIvlf1jJW@homer.dodds.net"> <pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap=""> <snipped remaining quote for brevity> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>