Ubuntu Unity participation in LTS

Tue Dec 19 20:04:05 UTC 2023

On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 12:37:17AM +0530, Rudra Saraswat wrote:
> Hey Steve,

> Sorry, I missed your email. Thanks for the reminder. Here are the answers
> to your questions:

> > If https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity/unity is where you are doing
> > upstream development, could you please update the metadata in the
> > package to reflect this?

> Sure, I'll make sure to mention this to Dmitry (mitya57), as I'm unable to
> update the Unity project metadata on Launchpad myself.

To be clear, what I'm referring to is the metadata *in the package* that
points to the wrong place.

$ cat debian/watch 
version=3
opts=dversionmangle=s/daily.*// \
  https://launchpad.net/unity/+download .*/unity-([0-9.]+)\.tar\.(?:xz|bz2|gz)
$ grep launchpad.net/unit debian/control 
Homepage: https://launchpad.net/unity
$

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2023, 23:41 Steve Langasek, <tionssteve.langasek at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Rudra,
> >
> > I'm resending the below email and cc:ing Maik this time, as I have not
> > gotten any response to the remaining questions.  Since you mentioned having
> > trouble receiving the previous email, I had pinged you about this twice on
> > IRC but did not receive a response there either.
> >
> > While the Ubuntu Unity flavor appears to be in generally good shape for
> > 24.04 LTS, being unable to reach the flavor lead via the standard
> > communication channels of the Ubuntu project is concerning.
> >
> > Other than this, if you can address my request below, I'm happy to
> > recommend
> > Ubuntu Unity for LTS status to the TB.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 09:53:08AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 05:49:59PM +0530, Rudra Saraswat wrote:
> > > > Thank you for your response.
> >
> > > > > Flavor's support plan presented to Tech Board and approved; support
> > plan
> > > > > should indicate period of time if beyond 18 months (3 yrs or 5 yr),
> > key
> > > > > contacts, and setting expectations as to level of support.
> >
> > > > As with our previous non-LTS releases, we expect to support the LTS
> > for 3
> > > > years, not 5.
> >
> > > Ok.
> >
> > > > Maik is in fact on IRC ("Maik" on Libera).
> >
> > > Ok; note that this is not the IRC nick listed on the referenced wiki
> > page :)
> >
> > > > We plan to continue maintaining the Unity package set, releasing fixes
> > for
> > > > bugs and security issues, as well as any issues that might prop up in
> > other
> > > > related packages in general use by Ubuntu Unity users.
> >
> > > > > Since Canonical is no longer the upstream for Unity, do you
> > > > > yourself the upstream now for the unity packages?  I see
> > > > > debian/control for the unity source package still points
> > > > > https://launchpad.net/unity, but this is owned by ~unity-team
> > > > > has only ubuntu-core-dev and Canonical employees as members.
> > > > > latest unity package has an upstream version number
> > > > > '7.7.0+23.04.20230222.2' but there is no corresponding .orig.tar.xz
> > > > > as part of the source, this is a native package; the debian/watch
> > > > > file also points back at https://launchpad.net/unity, which has
> > 7.4.0
> > > > > as its latest release tarball.  So it is entirely unclear to me what
> > > > > the version number in this package is meant to indicate.
> >
> > > > Most of our development revolves around the main 'unity' package,
> > > > which is in active development, while the other packages are, like you
> > > > mentioned, in maintenance mode. (unless there are significant changes
> > > > necessitated by changes in the main Unity codebase)
> >
> > > > We haven't added any releases to the Unity Launchpad project, as it
> > > > simply serves as a host for the Launchpad Unity Git repository and
> > > > meets our needs. mitya57, a core-dev and member of our team and
> > > > package uploader, helps up keep
> > > > https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity/unity (where we maintain the
> > > > Unity codebase) and the Launchpad repo in sync, which is used as an
> > > > upstream for all the distributions that offer Unity, and the Launchpad
> > > > repo is just used to build the Unity packages, nothing more.
> >
> > > If https://gitlab.com/ubuntu-unity/unity/unity is where you are doing
> > > upstream development, could you please update the metadata in the
> > package to
> > > reflect this?
> >
> > > > Sorry for the late response btw. It was only a few minutes ago that I
> > > > realized you had already replied (I just received jbicha's email), as
> > > > I haven't received either of your two replies for some reason.
> >
> > > Nothing late about it, we have months yet before these discussions need
> > to
> > > be concluded.

-- 
Steve Langasek                   Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS
Debian Developer                   to set it on, and I can move the world.
Ubuntu Developer                                   https://www.debian.org/
slangasek at ubuntu.com                                     vorlon at debian.org
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