docker in 14.04

[Steve Langasek]

On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 06:19:57PM -0700, Nathan McCauley wrote:
> Thanks James for putting this proposal forward.

> This proposal makes a lot of sense, especially due to the rapid rate
> of feature development on Docker. We're happy to support this proposal
> and would like to work with the package maintainer of Ubuntu to make
> this happen.

Thanks, James, Nathan, for following up on this topic.

I believe the proposed plan meets the Tech Board's requirements for such an
exception, as previously discussed.  Since it also addresses upstream's
needs for an up-to-date, supportable package in Ubuntu, I'm +1 for this
exception.

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> On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 4:57 AM, James Page <james.page at ubuntu.com> wrote:
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> > Hi All
> >
> > After review and some further discussion within the team, with some
> > members of the Technical Board and with docker upstream it would
> > appear there are two options for Docker updates.
> >
> > 1) Drop docker from the Ubuntu archives and tell people to use
> > upstream packages.
> >
> > 2) Keep docker up-to-date in the archive, with some rigour around
> > upgrade and regression testing.
> >
> > Ubuntu is by far-and-away the most popular docker container base and
> > operating system for running docker on; I think we need to recognise
> > this as a community and embrace the docker ecosystem as part of the
> > Ubuntu distribution.
> >
> > The majority of docker users want the latest 'stable' release, they
> > are used to working this way (for now - see last part of policy
> > proposed below) and at this point in time, we should be supporting
> > this, not hindering it, without wasting multiple man-years of effort
> > trying to back port invasive security fixes and bug fixes to something
> > that people are realistically not going to use that much.
> >
> > So I'm proposing the following stable update policy for docker in Ubuntu
> > :
> >
> > 1) The package maintainer of docker will work in-conjunction with
> > docker upstream to identify at any given point in time what the best
> > stable release is for Ubuntu.  This allows us to deal with the 'new'
> > releases of docker alongside the previous 'stable' release and switch
> > things at the right time.
> >
> > 2) This release of docker will be packaged for the development release
> > and as a back port for all released versions of Ubuntu still under
> > support back to 14.04.
> >
> > 3) As part of the SRU testing process, we'll perform automated upgrade
> > testing of docker to ensure that a cross section of popular
> > application containers work both before and post upgrade, as part of
> > the upgrade AND being rebuilt pre and post upgrade.
> >
> > We should operate this policy until 16.04 release, at which point we
> > need to review whether its still appropriate or whether docker
> > development velocity is now shelving off, and we can seriously
> > consider a true stable docker maintenance approach for 16.04.
> >
> > I've CC'ed Eric and Nathan from docker upstream so they can both
> > comment on this proposal as well.
> >
> > I hope that this approach can be endorsed by the Technical Board and I
> > look forward to your responses!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > James
> > - --
> > James Page
> > Ubuntu and Debian Developer
> > james.page at ubuntu.com
> > jamespage at debian.org
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