Ubuntu Developer Survey and Next Steps

Jono Bacon jono at ubuntu.com
Mon Sep 12 06:27:43 UTC 2011

On 09/08/2011 05:38 PM, Stéphane Graber wrote:
> On 09/08/2011 07:03 PM, Iain Lane wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> Thanks for taking the poll.
>> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 03:40:47PM -0700, Jono Bacon wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>> I have just published the report highlighting the findings from the
>>> Ubuntu Developer Survey I ran recently. It is at 
>>> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/09/08/ubuntu-developer-survey-report-and-next-steps/
>>> I think it would be useful to organize a joint TB/DMB meeting to
>>> discuss the findings. Maybe we could do this at the next scheduled
>>> TB meeting - would you folks be open to that?
>> The next TB meeting isn't for 2 weeks, which is quite a while. We have a
>> DMB meeting on Monday @ 1900UTC though, which could work? We've got one
>> application to do and Micah's appointment to ratify so if you guys join
>> us at 1930? We could maybe carry on until 2100 if necessary. Dunno, just
>> a thought.
>> Having read the report, I'm concerned about the low response rate. Also
>> some of the comments quoted talk about going to the TB or MOTU council,
>> processes which haven't been used for quite a significant amount of
>> time, which makes me wonder that the information isn't fresh. This is
>> further backed up by your graph about Canonical employment. Take a look
>> at Mackenzie's recent record keeping
>>    http://people.ubuntu.com/~maco.m/dmb_record_keeping.html
>> and note the proportion of recent (since February) applicants that
>> worked for C. This indicates to me that a serious number of people who
>> have been through the DMB process (and /especially/ a significant number
>> of people who interacted with the current DMB, who were the butt of the
>> recent "discussions") didn't reply to the survey.
>> Cheers,
> Hi Jono,
> Thanks for running that survey and for the report.
> I agree with all of Iain's comments, there are definitely things we 
> can learn from that report, which at least for me sounds like, more 
> documentation on upload rights and how to get there.
> I honestly don't remember the questions from that survey but by the 
> report I'd think there wasn't a "Did you apply through the DMB or 
> before it got created?" question which would have helped us a lot 
> analyzing these results.
Unfortunately there wasn't that question in the survey.
> I know the DMB is very far from being perfect and we've had quite a 
> few issues with quorum lately but I'm still surprised that so many 
> people (applicants for coredev and PPU) found our processing time to 
> be poor or below average when I think the longest wait time we had was 
> two meetings, which in our case means a month.
> I seem to remember waiting a lot longer than that when applying for 
> per package upload, motu and coredev myself and finding that to be 
> perfectly normal.
Do you feel we could reduce this time?
> Anyway, I agree that having an IRC meeting to publicly discuss these 
> results would be nice and the next DMB meeting would be a good 
> candidate for that.
> Next TB meeting is on beta2 release day, so I'd think most of us are 
> going to be quite busy with other things on that day, having it sooner 
> would be great.
Sounds great. Can everyone make it along to the DMB meeting on 12th Sep?


Jono Bacon
Ubuntu Community Manager
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