Kernels built - copy to -proposed?

[Martin Pitt]

Hello Steve,

Steve Conklin [2010-12-02 16:33 -0600]:
> We've completed uploading kernels for the next cycle to our kernel ppa
> and they've built. Now they need to be copied to the -proposed pocket so
> we can begin verification next week.
> 
> I'm not sure how the process is different now that we're doing it this
> way instead of having you approve uploads before they are built. If you
> can provide information about this it would help us.

Why are you now using a PPA instead of -proposed? A PPA shouldn't
build a kernel any faster than the regular archive buildds? This
approach effectively breaks the tools that we have for review, so the
process for the person who reviews/accepts the upload will be a lot
harder.

That these kernels now may have security fixes and bug fixes
intermixed is not a buildd/archive problem. The existing security
update process already has a staging area and ensures that -proposed
components aren't used, and for a "regular" SRU which goes to -updates
the existing SRU process works just fine.

However, mixing security and bug fixes IS a problem nevertheless:
Either it means that we are holding back security fixes for two weeks,
or that we smuggle non-security changes under the security fast-track
to circumvent the -proposed testing and regression catching; neither
of which sounds appropriate to me.

> We've put the documentation we have here, there's a section titled
> "Build PPA and process for pocket copying":
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/StableReleaseCadence
> 
> Within that there's a link to this information written by Jamie
> Strandboge:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Copying%20PPA%20kernels%
> 20to%20proposed
> 
> Please correct anything that's not correct on those pages.

I updated ArchiveAdministration to include the missing steps that are
required for an SRU [1], including a disclaimer that this is in no way
a sanctioned process.

Thanks, and have a good weekend,

Martin

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration?action=diff&rev2=170&rev1=169
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Martin Pitt                        | http://www.piware.de
Ubuntu Developer (www.ubuntu.com)  | Debian Developer  (www.debian.org)
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