Dead List Walking

[Anthony Papillion]

I'm not sure this is all Popey's fault.  While he certainly did
spearhead the effort to shut down the list, it doesn't look like there
was a whole lot of constructive alternatives discussed and, from what
I saw, nobody even showed up to the CC meeting to defend Sounder. Of
course, perhaps someone showed up late to the meeting as I'm not
through the transcript yet but it looks like there was nobody.

I'm also not sure what the purpose of reforming the Sounder list
somewhere else might be - or the value. While I've gotten value from
this list, I have to say it's nothing that can't be found elsewhere.
Want to discuss Ubuntu or Linux in general? There are lists for that.
Politics? Tech? Religion? There are lists for those too. I'm not
entirely convinced that a good list should or even can sustain all of
those topics and keep quality.

The one thing I *can* and *do* fault popey on is that his decision to
propose shutting Sounder down seems to have been more emotionally than
critically motivated. It's even briefly addressed in the CC meeting
because they knew many of us would see it that way. It all just seems
a little to slap on the wrist for my tastes.

Sad to see Sounder go but I suppose I can see both sides.

Anthony


On 4/19/11, Liam Proven <lproven at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 19 April 2011 22:45, sktsee <sktseer at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Heh, my first, and last post to this list.
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncil/TeamReports/11/April
>>
>> Meeting 2011-04-19
>>
>>    CC decided to close the Sounders mailing list. In essence, this is a
>> decision to prune areas of the project which are offtopic or ungoverned,
>> on the basis that they distract from our shared community focus on the
>> goal of delivering free software in the best possible state, on
>> particular terms (free of charge, cadence). While we appreciate that the
>> Sounders list (and possibly other, similar forums) provide a particular
>> social release for those who use them, we think there are better forums
>> for each of the varied topics discussed there. Some of those are inside
>> the project, most are elsewhere.
>>
>> Transcript of IRC meeting log here:
>> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/19/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
>>
>> --
>> sktsee
>
> "We finally really did it. You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you. God
> damn you all to hell!"
>
> Thanks a ******* lot, Popey, you ****** ******* *******.
>
> Do folk think there's any point starting our own mailing list to
> replace Sounder or should we just disband?
>
>
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