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[Gryllida]

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Daniel Robitaille <robitaille at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Kevin Hunter <hunteke at earlham.edu>
> wrote:
> > At 3:06am -0500 Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Gryllida wrote:
> >> I have only one partition. Windows XP currently boots from it. I
> >> don't know where I can install Ubuntu... Maybe I could shrink the
> >> existing partition, but that's quite dangerous - will XP boot
> >> from it again then?
> >
> > Let me suggest virtualization as the possible better route.  Reasoning:
> >
> > 1. You've suggested that you're much more comfortable with Windows.  If
> > you're interested to learn Linux, virtualization is one very harmless
> > way to check it out.
> >
> > 2. You won't need to do any partition management.  The only thing you'll
> > have to do is create a large file, say 10G for starters.  This large
> > file would be the "hard drive" of the virtual computer, and you would
> > create it with the GUI tools available through the virtualization
> > solution.  This is safer, because contrary to David's experience, I have
> > definitely encountered instances (2 in the last month) where there were
> > issues with the existing partition such that the Ubuntu installer didn't
> > play nice
> >
> > 3. If you decide you don't like it, it's as simple as clicking a delete
> > button in a GUI, and you get all your disk space back.  Juxtapose that
> > experience with having to repartition everything again.
> >
> > 4. You can run both systems simultaneously.  It sounds like you live
> > most of your life in Windows, and trying to convert too quickly might
> > cause you headache.  Besides, if you're doing web development, you need
> > to see the rendering capabilities of multiple browsers.  Having to
> > reboot to windows every so often just to check the rendering of a web
> > page would get tedious fast.
> >
> > 5. Virtualization tools are free and Free.  VirtualBox is my current
> > favorite general-purpose virtualization solution because it's super
> > fast, "just works", is easy to install on almost every platform
> > (including Windows), and is GPL to boot.  (Side note: VirtualBox is the
> > *much* bigger loss than MySQL in this Oracle buyout of Sun.  Much
> bigger.)
> >
> > 6. If you understand the concept that a virtual computer means
> > "virtualizating /everything/ for the 'guest' computer", then learning
> > the VirtualBox GUI should take you no more than 30 minutes.  It's very
> > easy, and has wizards for a large portion of what it does.  Further,
> > it's help documentation is surprisingly well-written.
> >
> > Reasons not to go the virtualization route:
> >
> > - You don't have enough RAM.  Remember that you're virtualizing a
> > computer, and it will need RAM, just like a physical machine.  So you'd
> > need devote at least 512M of RAM to a guest Ubuntu while it was running.
> >  If you don't have the ram to spare, virtualization might not be a
> > solution.
> >
> > - You don't have the virtualization hardware support available on your
> > processor or enabled in your BIOS.  I don't actually know how to check
> > for this with Windows, but on Linux, you would do:
> >
> > $ grep -Ei "vmx|svm" /proc/cpuinfo
> >
> > If that returns any data in your flags line, you have the capability.
> > You might have to enable it in the BIOS, but at least you know you have
> it.
> >
> > Kevin
>
> Kevin is correct, it's not that difficult to run Ubuntu in VirtualBox
> on top of Windows, and it's probably the best solution in this
> situation.  Just use one of the online resource out there to get you
> going.  My current favourite one is:
>
> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/virtualbox
>
> If you have a bit of ram (probably 1gb is good minimum, 50-50 shared
> between Windows and Ubuntu), and a little bit of disk space (let's say
> 8gb for a minimum size of a virtual disk), you can have Ubuntu running
> in just a few minutes of install time.
>
>
> Daniel
>
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No, I want them be independent. Thanks a lot.
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