Microsoft wants you to "Get the Facts Straight"

[Jay Daniels]

On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 19:00 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote:
> Ari Torhamo wrote:
> 
> > ma, 2009-09-07 kello 22:27 -0300, Derek Broughton kirjoitti:
> >> John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> >> 
> >> > AFAICT, the two big differences between Linux and Windows are:
> >> > 1) Windows has the advantage that you grab random crap from all over
> >> > the place and can install it easily.
> >> > 2) Linux has the advantage that you can't grab random crap from all
> >> > over the place and install it easily.
> >> 
> >> ?  Sure you can.  A significant amount of the time spent helping people
> >> on the user lists is exactly because of that.
> > 
> > 
> > I think the point was that "random crap from all over the place" is much
> > less of a problm with Linux distributions than with Windows. Partly
> > thanks to the repository system there's less "crap" available and much
> > of it is more difficult to install - which turns most of the regular
> > users away.
> 
> You know, I think I got that.  And I completely agree that there's _less_ - 
> after all, most software is still written for Windows - but I _don't_ agree 
> that it's either difficult to install "crap" or hard to find it.  Linux has 
> come of age -we have PLENTY of crap.
> -- 
> derek


You said it derek.  The bottom line, I have all I need in Linux and I am
more productive in Ubuntu than in Windows.

As for free applications and many commercial applications, there is a
linux way or replacement.  Where Linux falls short, is high-end
commercial applications ie Garage Operator.

Of course I hardly ever play games except for piping pig into pidgin, if
you want to call that a game.  As for traditional online games, a friend
of mine is always complaining because there is no shockwave for linux.
I can't understand why he cannot find a nice java game website that
works with Linux.  I guess he loves canned ham from those windows-only
game sites using legacy shockwave flash games which they probably stole.

There is nothing better than a ds or psp for games, or xbox even.  I
don't need games on linux myself.

I tried Windows 7 RC1 for several weeks.  It's the same shit microsoft
has been pushing for years.  At least apple's mac osx product is
something new.  Neither compare to Ubuntu Linux - not to mention the
price.  However, I purchased Redhat 4 and 5 on cdrom - one was named
Hurricane, can't remember the other...  I would probably purchase Ubuntu
if it wasn't free.  I think that says a lot coming from a Linux user
since 1997 when I bought a Linux book with a disk inside called
Slackware 96.  I've been hooked ever since.

My personal belief?  If these new Linux users would sit down one weekend
and learn how Linux works and learn either vi or emacs and learn how to
use the console or terminal commands, they will never go back to a
Windows OS.  You don't have to be an expert, but you need to do more
than just installing Ubuntu to understand what I am talking about.

Then you have those posting on the list about this don't work, I can't
get that to work and Ubuntu doesn't work, etc.  Many of these folks
don't understand the concept of copy and paste - it's very difficult to
help such people via mailing list and they usually go running back to
Windows (which they know nothing about either).


This is not directed at you derek, jmho.



jay