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[Siggy Brentrup]

On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 21:04 +0200, Odd wrote:
> Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 15:36 +0200, Odd wrote:
> >> Siggy Brentrup wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 21:14 +0200, Odd wrote:
> >>>> Derek Broughton wrote:
> >>>>> Michael Haney wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> The response from most of the support group to my problem is similar
> >>>>>> to the response of some people in this group over the email issue,
> >>>>>> they suggest replacing the monitor just like people here suggest
> >>>>>> replacing the email client rather than facing up to the real issue at
> >>>>>> hand.  They don't want to be bothered with being fair to every user
> >>>>>> who happens to use their email client of choice because in their minds
> >>>>>> the one they use is the best and everyone else who doesn't do it their
> >>>>>> way is wrong.
> >>>>> OK - but YOU want to break _my_ client's standard's compliant
> >>>>> handling of list mail, by putting in a Reply-To header.  Doing
> >>>>> something wrong because everybody else is doing something wrong,
> >>>>> doesn't make it right.  So sure, go ahead and use a broken client
> >>>>> if you want, but don't demand that the list be crippled because
> >>>>> you insist on doing so.
> >>>  
> >>>> How would the list be crippled by adding a Reply-To: header?
> >>>> It would still include the List-Post: header.
> >>> Args Odd, you're driving me nuts.  Reply-To is to be set by the
> >>> original sender of a message to direct private responses to a specific
> >>> mail account.
> >> 99.99% of users don't care.
> > 
> > So 99.99% of users are wrong, they ressemble lemmings that follow the easy
> > way.

> Computers are supposed to make things easier for us. 

Sure but why insist on broken setups even when told how to fix them by
more experienced people?

> If you want hard, go back to pen and pencil.

This argument earns you a honorable mention in my scores file:
% grep iodine ~/muttrc/scores
group -group TROLL -addr iodine at runbox.no


> > As long as I have a brain to think with, I refuse to join a majority
> > on provable issues (even if you call me fascist which in my case would be
> > more of an insult than you can imagine).
> 
> Why would I call you a fascist? I never call anyone that, except
> for the ones that truly deserve it, like neo-nazis and David Irving.

I have been termed like that for refusing to break a ML setup thereby
ignoring a vast majority, the exact issue we are talking about.

> >>> Abusing it by mailing list software as you suggest or
> >>> by procmail as Amadee does is still violating the sender's intentions.
> >> No. Just a very, very, very small minority that care about such
> >> things. 99.99% of senders have no intentions at all with regards
> >> to the Reply-TO: header. They don't even know it exists.

How about the majority setting up a mail system ignoring those parts
of RFCs they don't understand.  Let's go back to the chaos days of bbs
gateways.

> > Lemmings again.
> 
> Go back to pen and pencil. Then you're certainly not a lemming. But
> I think you're a lemming too since you insist on using a computer like
> everyone else.

So you say using a computer is the wrong thing to do?  You're right,
but it happens to be the easiest way to legally earn some money for
me.  I'd much prefer to photograph or go sailing; that's what I need
the money for.

> >>> As an example I'm setting it again to redirect responses, and yes
> >>> that mailing list is functional - just try it.
> > 
> > Sorry for the mistake, it's only set in my followup.
> > 
> >> It's functional, but does not work at optimum functionality.
> > 
> > This statement tops the other ones in sillyness, you didn't even try that
> > list otherwise I as it's owner had seen any attempt to subscribe or post.
> 
> Sorry, I mistakenly thought you were talking about this list.

ack

Regs
  Siggy
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