Observation of the day: Gaphor and Glom unknowingly install services that remain active from an early runlevel :(

Derek Broughton derek at pointerstop.ca
Fri May 29 00:58:26 BST 2009

Tommy Trussell wrote:

> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Today I noticed that Gaphor and Glom brought with themselves two new
>> additions to Services Administration: zope3 and postgresql, enabled by
>> default to start at runlevel 2. I disabled both services and the apps
>> continue to work, starting zope3 or postgres on their own.
>> Considering I don't actually use those for anything else (they're just
>> means to run those handy applications), I think it's incredibly wasteful
>> that I end up with these fairly major components running constantly in
>> the background and jumping into my boot process!
>> I can't put my finger on how, but I wish Debian could be cleverer about
>> this :/
> I believe the general Debian philosophy is that if you installed the
> software, you want to use it so it should do the right thing (or at
> least not do the wrong thing). Conversely if you don't need the
> software, you can easily remove it if you don't want to figure out how
> to disable it.

But a UML tool that installs Zope??  (A product which you won't find 
_anybody_ recommending be installed from Debian packages - I sure don't).  
It doesn't seem to make much sense.

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